Talk:Glint

Diverting the elon could have been problematic for someone living in a grain of sand. Lord Belar 00:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why I laughed at that. I pity myself now. And the way I saw it, it was all magical, not micro mini nano itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka-dot bikini sizing it. Calor (t) 00:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Funny. But sands with huge dragons inside them floats! --Nuclear 7 19:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I laughed that you laughed at it, Calor... -- Armond Warblade 08:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

ya i was imaging that drakkar killed glint and glint did very little damage to him lol hope im not right glints awesomeVanderDragonspyre 05:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

So very, very close... --zeeZ 14:06, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

not relevant i don't believe

what does glint have to do with GW2? Arthurperson 22:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

She's likely the only GW1 person still alive after 250 years. Lord Belar 22:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Kuunavang and Stone Dwarves Kai Nui 19:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd wager we nuke it. We have so many incomplete and stubby articles like this one. best if we delete them all, and recreate them as they are needed.--Nuclear 7 19:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Nuke 'em, build stuff based upon solid info and solid... assumptions.

Hah! I've added an interesting piece of information! Thought it would have been in there already, but oh well. -- Armond Warblade 18:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The stone Dwarves are basically mindelss now. And Glint was a far more important character than Kuunavang and the Dwarves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.71.240.170 (talk • contribs).

Please sign with the 4 tildes (~~~~) even if not logged in. The Dwarves are not mindless, just obsessed with killing Primordus' minions it seems. Glint probably will have something to do with GW2 - along with the statue of Glint in Salt Flats, due to what was said during the PAX in the 3rd year anniversary video. As for "who's still alive after 250 years" - the gods, Razah, Zhed, Vekk, (any other Centaur or Asuran, and Forgotten, we met) are all possible, as we know Centaurs live for hundreds of years (proven by Ventari), and Asuras seemingly live for a long time. As there are Forgotten from 1000 years ago in the Lair of the Forgotten, they clearly live a LONG time. And we don't know if Razah ages as well. -- Konig Des Todes 00:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Going to end up being important

In GW2 Glint will most likely wake up or be awoken by the player and then becomes a grown dragon somehow that probably has to do with a mission or quest to get the "water of life" or something idk.....but i'm thinking Glint is important but we just dont know how yet--FrekyElf 18:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

"water of life" ^^ Fallout 3 much ? MadSkillz1o1 08:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Who ever said Glint went to sleep? o_O -- Konig Des Todes 21:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, with all these evil giant dragons of doom flying around, it'd be nice to have at least one on our side. Mat Cauthorn, The Botanist 16:20, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

in an interview just now with jeff grubb someone asked a question about the fate of glint and he was pretty hesitant to answer before just sayinng something along the lines of we'll find out in gw2. which says to me either glint will be in gw2 in some form or there will be some sort of story in game behind glint. ArthasShadowsong 13:17, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

glints child/children

there was a EOTN mission where we had to protect glints baby (glints challenge), yet in the mission where you meet glint (dragons lair) there's hundreds of eggs so doesn't this mean we could be fighting alongside a dragon army.

That somewhat reminds me of the eagles in Lord of the Rings. xD That would be pretty cool-- Shew 21:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The dragon Glint is nowhere near as powerfull as the "new" dragons. It would be odd to see us fighting among a horde of very small, very young, very weak dragon. The eagels for LOTR are fully grown. 250 years is nothing for a dragon. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 07:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I have a theroy...

I think that Glint was actually created by the 5 elder dragons. To support this idea I have figured out another theory witch is that the 5 elder dragons created Tyria, since they rival the power of the true gods and are older than them it is safe imo to assume they where previous gods. Since they might have been the previous gods they might have been what created Tyria and the Giganticus Lupicus, and at the same time Kralkatorrik might have created Glint, I get this idea from the fact that Kral is called the "Elder Crystal Dragon" and Glint is called the "Crystal dragon", and each dragon has a general that has survived throughout the years like the Great Destroyer. And with the fact that Jeff commented on what Glint said in GW1 that she might not have told us the truth that means that she very well could be older than the true gods as well as a general or minion for Kral. Please don't flame me for any of this, its just a theory I have. -Elemental Phantom 16:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC) (Seems I forgot to sign)

Alright, let's do this! THEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOY GLIIIINTKIINS! I'm sorry for that, I had to. :) But it would make sense, to be honest... Kralkatorrik flies all the way towards the Crystal Desert and lands near Glint's lair. They might be having a cup of tea and biscuits together whilst gossiping up about this world. =] I'm serious about the theory making sense in a way. The rest is lame joke play. - Infinite - talk 14:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Edge of Destiny actually reveals Glint's origin. My information is secondhand but...

She's Kralkatorrik's champion, but she aids Destiny's Edge in fighting, and almost killing, Kralkatorrik. She's apparently a traitor. She also reveals the nature of the Elder Dragons

Of course, this is from Glint's own mouth, and we know how trusting that is, given what Jeff said... -- Konig/talk 17:06, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I Love Glint! <3 (have you already read Whole DE Konig? 0.o):D

--The Holy Dragons 17:38, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

And srry for abusing the Spoiler :( It's my last time I swear! --The Holy Dragons 17:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

No, I did not read Edge of Destiny. "My information is secondhand" - I don't even have the book yet. Will be getting it tomorrow... Hopefully. (I went to various bookstores throughout last week, multiple times, never saw it. Only saw one GoA in fact). -- Konig/talk 19:23, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Killed the origina Guild Wars Heroes?

Edge of Destiny, Page 338, Glint: "Three hundred years ago, I welcomed heroes such as yourselves, hailing them as the Chosen who would destroy the titans and save the world. But did they remember? Did not the very heroes that I sent return to battle me again?....I can hear the thoughts of creatures. I am an oracle. I heard their plots against my master, stopped them before they reached him, killed them in their tracks. But I also felt their agony, their loss. It grieved me."

I know the years are slightly off but she is referring to GW: Prophecies with the Chosen. /speculation Maybe at the end of GW: Beyond there'll be reference that the heroes figure out the Elder Dragons are rising? It could just be a little tidbit to the reason why people could kill her in Prophecies but maybe this is the reason why the Heroes of Guild Wars didn't return to the Sunspear Great Hall/Shing Jea Island/Ascalon in triumph /endspeculation. Anyone read this differently? Seems like a nice way to tie off Guild Wars with a tragic loss before the descendants in Guild Wars 2 finally finish what was started all those ages ago. 161.184.88.202 09:29, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

The second bit you quote in that spoiler (after the "....") is not referring to them. Those events she talks about are regarding a earlier time in history, before she was in the grain of sand. And who said the heroes didn't return in triumph? In fact, for the first one (the sunspear hall), they did - in Prophecies, due to EN's beginning, it seems they stayed in Kryta, and went back there after EN too (though Devona and co. seemed to stay with the Ebon Vanguard considering their attendance to Gwen's wedding). The Canthan hero(es) seemed to go to Kaineng considering EN's beginning there. -- Konig/talk 21:12, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Touché, Konig, you may have won this round but I shall return more powerful than you cuold possibly imagine! 161.184.88.202 22:03, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Ciao IP! :3 --The Holy Dragons 23:40, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Anyone else remember ascolonian corpses found in Glints lair? HMMMMM? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM? Suspicious no? (ps sorry for the signature thingy, very noob at making it)Kew24 13:58, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I Thought it was stated they were from people trying to defeat Glint or something like that :P --The Holy Dragons 15:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Forgotten Gate Keeper: "Glint does not often accept visitors. If you wish to meet her, you must make your way through the defenses of her lair."

Forgotten Gate Keeper: "Defeat the six facets of the great dragon prophet, and you shall be granted an audience. Step through this portal to begin the journey."

She Just doesn't like visitors... --The Holy Dragons 15:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Those Ascalonian corpses are not who she talked about, mind you, as those who she welcomed as the Chosen... were the GW1 PC, and they returned later. Also note: She said that the dragonss stomachs emptied - the PC only fought Primordus' champion and forced him to slumber longer. Arguably Jormag as well via Svanir incident. But Kralkatorrik? Not yet. :D I hope that in GW:Beyond, we go to fight Glint, intending to kill her. Would be nice to see that little bit of the nameless heroes' story. -- Konig/talk 22:06, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure we'll get to that just after our little trip to sunken orr, so we can defeat zhaitan's champion as well (and let's not forget bubbles)? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.176.212.243 (talk).

Those won't happen unless Zhaitan's champion appears in Kryta or the Crystal Desert (since we can't go underwater and the Live Team's too small for new areas, no matter how much I want to see the islands of Orr in gw1)... which I doubt. It'll probably just be a plot around Glint - if Beyond will even cover it. -- Konig/talk 23:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

The Vizier could have stood in for Zhaitan's Champion? (Undead Elder Dragon => Undead Lich => Undead army?) 68.144.77.185 00:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think she was referring to the heroes in Guild Wars Prophecies since she says "300 years ago" and there is 248 years between Guild Wars Prophecies & the awakening of Kralkatorrik. --Mage Montu 10:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

250 -> round up -> 300? --The Holy Dragons 10:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

250 rounds up to 250, 270+ rounds up to 300. At least that's how we round up numbers in Malta. --MageMontu 10:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) She is a prophet of things that will be, not a historian of things that have been. And given how long she's been alive, it's not that hard for a discrepancy of fifty years to happen. -Yossitaru 10:47, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

It is most certainly in reference to the GW1 heroes. The fact that she "hailed them as the chosen," that they returned, and so forth makes it painfully obvious. The events foretold gw1:Flameseeker Prophecies couldn't occur until the Searing and the undead invasion - these two things, along with Prince Rurik's death and the civil war in the Shiverpeaks - were all very important pieces of the prophecies. And I highly doubt that the compiler of the prophecies would have made the mistake of thinking someone else was the group chosen. Not to mention it seemed like what she said was said that way for poetic reasons "three thousand years ago I was placed as guardian, three hundred years ago I welcomed heroes who returned to try to kill me" (paraphrased) - it just doesn't have that same flow if it was "three thousand years ago I was placed as guardian, two hundred and fifty years ago I welcomed heroes who would return to try to kill me." -- Konig/talk 17:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, the bonus mission in Glint's Lair is to try and kill Glint herself (one of the toughest bosses in Prophescies, too). I'm not certain if that's what she refers to in her statement (I doubt many tried to kill her in their first run through), but it's already coded in. I don't imagine they'd include another combat with her when one is already there. --Rognik 74.210.89.205 22:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

NO IT'S NOT. The bonus mission is trying to steal one of her eggs, this causes HER to attack YOU. 69.115.246.157 22:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually that's what triggers the bonus. The bonus objective is "Bonus Defeat Glint." not "Bonus Obtain one of Glint's eggs". -- Konig/talk 23:57, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

-Redacted-

Why is Arenanet killing everything i liked in gw1 ._.;--Icyyy Blue 23:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers unnecessary. Although there is no reason to directly avoid putting them on a wiki, we shouldn't put them somewhere where everyone has to see them. Anyways, I think this is a testament to how they're moving away from GW1. Eive 23:54, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

its on the page shes dead lol!--Icyyy Blue 00:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

And this shows up in Recent Changes. Eive 00:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

ok?--Icyyy Blue 00:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Which means we have Talk:Glint‎ (→Dead: ) showing up whenever someone comments here. :P Eive 00:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

OHHH lol i get it ha--Icyyy Blue 00:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Edge of Destiny

In the book, it says Glint isn't within a single grain of sand, but has put up an illusion that when dispelled, it will move the sand out of the way revealing the entrance to her lair. Maybe put a note or something? Or fix that the article says Glint is within a single grain of sand? It's in chapter 25 or 26... Somewhere near part III. 115.64.200.42 04:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember that too. Edited the page. --ஸ Kyoshi 04:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it isn't that the sand "moves away" but becomes the lair. -- Konig/talk 06:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Still. Implies that her lair requires more than a single grain of sand. My point (I'm OP, just at a different IP) was that Ossa was wrong. That Glint isn't within a single grain of sand. I'm rarely on Wiki so unfamiliar with protocol.

It isn't so much as "Ossa was wrong" since "Much of what we know about Glint comes from Glint herself." (Jeff Grubb - can be found in the reference link on the main article). But the article was edited (though not really correct, since it wasn't so much illusionary magic, but I don't know how to word it to be accurate and not sound weird/confusing).

As far as i remember, the point was not that her lair was in one grain of sand, but that it was in all of the grains of sand, and that when they realised this the lair appeared before them. But, I haven't looked at the passage, so thats just my memory Thering 23:17, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

"The sand moved-grains fusing to become crystals, and crystals fusing to become gems and gems to become rods and columns and walls and colonnades." There's much more, but that's the important part. The sand moved and fused together around them, placing them in the center of the entrance. -- Konig/talk 02:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Isn't it more like a metaphor? that finding the lair is like finding a single grain in the crystal desert? 109.133.84.73 12:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

The metaphor is indeed that finding Glint's lair is like looking for a single grain of sand in a desert. But in truth, her lair actually is in all of the grains, and once you realize that, you can find her sanctum. In GW1 players needed to Ascend to gain the gift of True Sight to find Glint. Destiny's Edge was able to figure it out on their own, however. Mediggo 14:38, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Relevance

Is this relevant to this wiki because she was killed before the game? - 70.31.72.119 20:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

yes because DE still is in GW2 --The Holy Dragons 20:50, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

It's lore.. so yes. Waar Kijk Je Naar 20:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, purely because it's part of the novels, which is more relevant to GW2 than to GW1, and they should be documented. -- Konig/talk 20:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be nice to write down the way DE tried to kill Krally? It would be a fact, but would it have succeeded or not is an other discussion. Ge4ce-Talk-Contribs 05:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Meh, imo no, simply because we should leave some things for readers to find on their own. -- Konig/talk 17:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Glint now has dialogue and relevance from her crystals, with which she gives the player info and lore.Dragon Hunter (talk) 16:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Confused

Why does it say Glint was created by the Human Gods, but stated by the book, she was created to protect Kralkatorrik? Didn't the elder dragons go to sleep before the Human Gods existed? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:69.11.32.213 (talk).

Everything we know about Glint comes from Glint. Eive 22:00, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

It's just contradicting is all from what I can see --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:69.11.32.213 (talk).

Well, who would you be more willing to trust, a dragon who says she was made by the known Gods, or a dragon who says she was made by an even more powerful, but unknown, dragon that was around before the Gods which will most likely seek to destroy everything when it wakes up? A lie of convenience saved Tyria from the threat of the titans. Also it's possible it was originally true, but later retconed to the current state. -Yossitaru 01:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

"is said by many to be the first creature created by the Human Gods." This does not mean that she was, but that it's widely believed to be the case. The actual situation is stated down below under the spoiler tag. There is no contradiction. -- Konig/talk 04:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Kuunavang

Err.... What ever happened to Kuunavang? Was she/he created by the Elder Dragons too?-- Necro Shea Mo 16:26, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

We don't know. Glint is able to have children, so the lesser dragons can breed. We don't know if this means that Kuunavang was created by the Elder dragons, is descended from creations of the Elders, or is completely unrelated to the elder dragons. Heck, he could even be descended from the elder dragons - Glint could have been "created" by Kralkatorrix with the meaning of being his/her daughter. We have no info at all. So feel free to speculate :) Thering 16:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Kuunavang is a she iirc --The Holy Dragons 17:55, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Kuunavang is indeed a she. And has put on par to Glint by the Movement of the World - however that's from an in-universe text and thus said in-universe writer may not have known that Glint=ED champion. Fun fact: Anet put Glint on par to Rotscale. -- Konig/talk 20:04, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Considering she uses the same character model, she might be a REALLY REALLY OLD saltspray dragon. Zolann The Irreverent 20:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Wait, so Rotscale is the death dragon general? but i thought rotscale was killed by Lt. Thackeray on his epic march through majesty's rest :) Thering 02:28, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Nothing said that, Thering, to either case. What Rotscale is, is unknown, and just because Keiran could kill Rotscale, if he did I think they'd make it very prominent in the story of Hearts of the North, rather than just a skin of a bow. -- Konig/talk 08:18, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

The Shatterer

After reading Edge of destiny my theory was that the Shatterer was Glint revived by Kralkatorrik, but without her free will, or in someway more strictly controlled after her betrayal. It would be a good way to keep a classic character in the story.Plus he does need another champion and where else would the shatter come from, unless it was on of glints off-spring (do dragons fully mature in 250 years~Glint was at least 3,000 when the original GW was released.?) Radu 08:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

1st it's the Shatterer, not the Shatter. 2nd, the Shatterer is a rank. Read this: Shatterer. Waar Kijk Je Naar™ 09:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

It's probably not impossible, but Glint already managed to slip off Kralkatorrik's influence once. To me, it would seem that Kralkatorrik has many minions, more loyal than Glint, to rely on. Glint might just as well be but one of many lesser crystal dragons. Mediggo 09:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

I find it highly unlikely. The Shatterer is hollow and the entire thing looks like animated stone. None of the other formerly-living creatures are hollow (or animated stone - not in the same sense that is). Konig/talk 02:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Glint's Origin

Not sure where/how/if it's necessary to put this in, but it seems that Glint was indeed NOT created specifically by Kralkatorrik. I've yet to complete Arah explorable but according to its wiki page, on the Forgotten path, Warden Illyra says that the forgotten basically de-corrupted her mind: "Glint remained in crystalline form, but she regained her free will and identity". The key word here, of course, is "regained", which implies to me that she originally was uncorrupted, then became corrupted, and is now re-uncorrupted. 64.134.100.249 18:44, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Destiny's Edge was not protecting her

I might remember this wrong from the book, but I think the line "even Destiny's Edge could not protect her, losing Snaff in the attempt" is not correct. IIRC Glint knew she was going to be Kralk bait, and Snaff gave her that thingy to put on Kralk so he could assault his mind. That was Glint's job. And DE's job was protecting Snaff from the branded while he struggled with Kralk's mind. So both Glint and Snaff died in the attempt of killing Kralk, not in the attempt of saving Glint. Noone was there to save Glint, their goal was killing Kralk all along. --188.250.21.221 17:17, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request

Change to the first note (about Glint's children) to:

* In ''[[Guild Wars]]'', Glint had at least 21 visible eggs in her lair; one of them, named [[Gleam (dragon)|Gleam]] by bards, is known to have hatched. It is unknown if any other eggs have hatched between the games, or if they are free from the Elder Dragons' corruption.<ref>[http://nl.twitch.tv/guildwars2/b/327657138 GuildWars2 - Guild Wars 2 TAD Talk: Fantasy and RPGs - Twitch]</ref>

Reason: Santax placed the reference tag before what the reference is for, and incorrectly sites norn skaald when Eir simply says "bards" (no race attribution and she no doubt would have said skaald not bard if she meant skaald); furthermore Gleam leads to a Zephyrite NPC. Rest of what was there is more deserving of being on Gleam's article.
And change the Trivia note (about EoD's "reference") to:

* In ''Edge of Destiny'', Glint states that the [[gw1:Chosen|Chosen]] heroes she sent off later returned to battle her. This may be a reference to the bonus objective of [[gw1:The Dragon's Lair|the Dragon's Lair]] mission.

Reason: Glint's wording implies returning after knowing the truth of her history, implying that she may have had a role with a future Beyond arc (GW:Beyond never completed and had at least two non-holiday story arcs remaining before its cancellation). Konig 02:10, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Glint's Death

How is it that Kralkatorrik killed Glint yet we also kill her in Guild Wars 1 during the bonus part of The Dragon's Lair mission. Is gameplay and lore separated? If so is Scarlet still alive even though we killed her?

If I remember correctly, anything in GW1 that was a "bonus mission" was not lore. This might not be accurate for all events; but I do recall that explanation being given somewhere. -Darqam (talk) 01:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

In general, bonus missions were 100% lore. Glint talks about the Chosen returning to kill her in Edge of Destiny. Doesn't mention the outcome, however, but I'd presume that the canon lore is: they fought, the heroes won, thought they killed her but she was just feigning. Or something along those lines. Konig (talk) 03:29, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Scion

In one of the new story parts, someone said that Glint is a Scion of an Elder Dragon herself. I don't think it is just a random line, considering other events and revelations in the story. Sime (talk) 11:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Do you remember who, or where? Having context of the line can provide some illumination on the significance of the line, or if the old unreliable narrator is cropping up again.--Rognik (talk) 20:47, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Chapter The Way Forward, leading Sadizi to reveal informations from pedestasl:

*Josso Essher: Glint was the key.
*Josso Essher: She was perfect for our cause - a scion of an Elder Dragon and a Crystal Dragon herself, with a mind of her own.
*Josso Essher: We did our work well. Glint, actively rejecting Kralkatorrik, and she brought forth more scions to join our case.
*Sadizi: That was Josso Essher, one of the legacy's main architects.  

Sime (talk) 23:25, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Scion of Kralkatorrik

To avoid further edit warring, moving discussion here. To summarize:

• User:Neok: "glint being a scion of kralkatorrik is confirmed in PoF"
• Myself: "It's only confirmed she's the scion of "an Elder Dragon". Kralkatorrik not mandatory. Wouldn't be surprising it is Primordus, given Primordus' interest in Vlast/Aurene and the similarity between Glint and Primordus' GW1 models"
• Neok: "Wrong quote. The relevant quote is "Kralkatorrik's blood, both literal and metaphorical, is its unique weakness, meaning Vlast, Glint, and the dragonblood spear were all viable weapons against Kralkatorrik...""
• Myself: "That's just saying Glint was corrupted by Kralkatorrik (true and long known - she was his dragon champion after all), and Vlast/Aurene comes from that same corruption/magic (true and long known), not that she is a scion of Kralk."
• Neok: "Of Kralkatorrik's blood means related - not corrupted."

To further: The line says both literal and metaphorical. Even bloodlines is literal, so metaphorical likely refers to corruption. In Crystalline Memories, we see the Forged mining Branded crystals and empowering a giant tail (the tail of the Warbeast) with said branded energy. In The Way Forward, the memoirs of Josso Essher specifies that the weakness of Kralkatorrik is in his crystalline corruption. This indicates that "Kralkatorrik's unique weakness" is not just his literal blood and his bloodline, but his corruption as well.

I'm not sure where this "Kralkatorrik's blood, both literal and metaphorical" comes from, I've seen no evidence of it, but even that I would argue is not proof that Glint is Kralkatorrik's child. Glint could be Kralkatorrik's niece for all argument's sake. Unless it's outright stated "Glint is Kralkatorrik's scion" I would argue that it is not "confirmed". Konig (talk) 18:49, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The quote is from the story journal description of The Way Forward. Bloodline is metaphorical his blood. Dragonsblood spear + dragonsblood arrows(EoD) are literally his blood. From Glint we know the following three things: she is of Kralkatorrik's blood(line), she is a crystal dragon, she is the scion of an elder dragon. Unless they are being unnecessarily vague they just mean to say in different ways that Glint is Kralkatorrik's daughter to put unnecessary speculation to rest. Neok (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The thing is, to me, if she was Kralkatorrik's scion than Josso Essher's line in The Way Forward is weird to say "she is a scion of an Elder Dragon and a crystal dragon herself". If she were to be Kralkatorrik's scion, then the second half would be already obvious.

It's also very, very strange that it is Kralkatorrik's bloodline that would be his weakness, as opposed to his corruption (crystals of the same frequency, that is). His blood becomes corrupted as it coagulates, much like Jormag's, thus his literal blood becoming a weakness makes sense. But as I point out, we also see Balthazar being prepared to utilize branded crystals themselves to attack Kralkatorrik (which is in turn actually foreshadowed back in Ascalon). That makes the relation of a bloodline being his weakness to be odd, and even contradicting of Josso Essher's line about it being about the crystalline frequency of his corruption that is his own weakness.

It should be noted that the story journal is written in the perspective of the PC, and thus can be subject to the unreliable narrator that ArenaNet loves to use. Konig (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

If you won't believe reason, then how about some word of god?

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Neok (talk) 22:29, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Good to see that they answered one of the questioners on that question (I had also asked that question among others). Also, that's a very insulting way of speaking yourself. What I presented *is* reasoning. Just because it's a different line of thought from yourself doesn't make it not reasoning. (For sake of argument, I will point out the dev says "in a manner of speaking" followed by saying Glint was "created" by Kralkatorrik which indicates that Glint was not born in a biological sense, but she is still considered Kralkatorrik's child.) Konig (talk) 00:09, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Could have glint replace kralktorrik if she win the battle?

All evidence point to glint and her scions are fit for this. That is why Forgotten free her in fist place. So if she absorbed energi of killed kralktorrik she would replace him or be neare it. if so the Forgotten totali failed since they practicaly left her defence to small group of heroes they sould have defended her with full force rally all forgotten in desert, Vlast, Zhepyrites and maybe the gods themselfs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Naryk (talk).

In theory. We still don't actually know how to replace an Elder Dragon. And it is strange that Glint was left alone, despite having facets, crystal guardians, crystal spiders, Forgotten, Exalted, and Zephyrites all willing to assist (the gods were already gone at the time and would have done worse damage since they apparently don't know how to control their power in combat). Konig (talk) 20:19, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Also, please sign you comments using four tildes (~). Konig (talk) 20:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

"...since they apparently don't know how to control their power in combat)." Wait, what? Where was this stated? Sime (talk) 20:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Implied, not stated. Kormir's entire line of reasoning was basically saying "when gods fight gods, landscapes get devastated, when mortals fight gods, all ends well." and using that reasoning for not just fighting the Elder Dragons, but against former god Balthazar. Which to me reads as "a god fighting is like bringing a nuke even if it's just a gun fight" or "gods have a minimal level of power they can use when fighting, and it is devastating." Konig (talk) 20:37, 15 September 2018 (UTC)