User talk:Kyx

Local Red Link Destruction Service

Hi, I'm you're local red link destruction service. Welcome to the wiki; feel free to direct any questions you may have to my talk page.
On another note, may I ask where you got the image currently being used as your sig image? Aqua (T|C) 00:10, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually... i don't know xD. I got this image years ago at school from a friend of mine. Anyway, if you're worried about copyright issues, i don't think at all that it is copyrighted. I use it as a sig simply because it's cool^^ --Kyx 01:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Did your friend create it, or is it just something they had found? A F K When Needed 06:15, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I think my friend just found it, but, it wasn't taken from a movie, a book, or a videogame, i think that somenoe just drawed (or Photoshopped) it and posted on the internet, so no copyright issues --Kyx 12:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

...that's not how copyright works.

If someone else created it, they own it. If they did not outright say you can use it (e.g. by releasing the work into the Public Domain, as an example) then you can't use it. That's theft. The entire point of copyright is to prevent exactly that.

Sorry, looks like it may have to be deleted. A F K When Needed 20:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I have the same sign on the other wiki from October and no one ever complained; and if no copyright owner (wich i foubt even exist) complained about copyright violations what's the problem? It's innocent until proven guilty --Kyx 00:13, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Forgive me, but that no one has come forth to say you are not to use their image does not give you implicit permission to use it. That it wasn't incorporated as part of another creative work doesn't matter; the art is a creative work in itself. That it was posted on the internet is not a valid justification; making content able to be viewed does not mean an extension of rights to others. (Furthermore, by using the image here, you are making claims about its availability of usage that you don't have grounds to make.) It happens, certainly, and I don't mean to be blunt and I don't think you actually mean ill intent, but unfortunately, in my understanding of this community and its guidelines, we can't allow images of unknown origin to be used for a signature. Might I suggest making your own? Redshift 00:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Fine then, i formally declare that my friend taked this picture from another friend of ours who gave us the permission to use it. Unless someone can prove that i am wrong this issue ends here.

PS: all this problems only for a miserable image? on the gw1 wiki no one cared about that.... this is simply overzealous --Kyx 21:35, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

No, the burden of proof lies with the one who is potentially posting copyrighted material to the wiki.

We aren't doing this to be mean; we are doing this to prevent ANet from being liable for hosting pirated content.

And the fact that no-one raised the issue on GWW is of no relevance. Just because no one noticed doesn't mean it's okay. Aqua (T|C) 21:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Then, with all respect... how the hell i can prove it?!? do i need a certificate? a recorded declaration of the author? In every democratic judicial system the burden of the proof lies with the person who lays charges. If it was for me, i would put a Bahamut picture for sign, but it's obvious that it's copyrighted. But in this case it's not. This allegations come with no proof, someone simpy supposed that this image was copyrighted --Kyx 21:52, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

All the above users (and myself) understand that this is an image you've grown acustomed to, hell, maybe you can even display it on basically every site you visit that allows you to have an avatar or signature of some sorts. Equally, all the users above (including myself) would rather find out whether this image is copyrighted in any form at all, than take it down out of precaution for potential copyright claims.

But unfortunately, this is an official wiki; there are strict and stern policies in place concerning copyright that dumb down to; "if copyright is suspected, regardless of proof, then it is best to delete the uploaded file in question to avoid future scenarios." Now, we also understand that the odds of a copyright claim landing on the wiki with that file are probably too slim to even be considered realistic to act on, but ArenaNet has tied our hands in that department.

At this point, since we've been unable to find potential copyright holders (does not mean they don't exist), we are in a position where suspection of copyright is too much of an issue to keep it uploaded here. I advise, therefore, to talk to the person who linked/sent it to you, and backtrack from there. We need to know if, and what type of licences are tied to that image, before we can contemplate allowing it to be uploaded on this wiki.

Not just your image is tainted by these policies; per example, we can not upload the official Twitter logo due to those policies ArenaNet has put in place. Even though Twitter specifically enables individuals to make use of certain logos, our licences and policies prohibit use here. It is a legal matter that, in all fairness, is best left avoided where possible. I really hope you understand that every single user of the above and myself would rather we'd found a free licence applied to that image, so that we can allow it being uploaded here because it would no longer clash with the policies put in place by our direct superiors (ArenaNet).

Sorry for this wall of text, but I could not help but notice your disappointment in these rules, so blatantly forced upon you. It's never a fun time when suspected copyright comes into effect, but unfortunately there is no work-around (until the source and the original licence for said image is uncovered).

I hope you will still find enjoyment in being on the official Guild Wars 2 Wiki. I wish you happy wiki-ing! :) - Infinite - talk 22:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

So apparently, my word isn't enough.. What do you fear? a DMCA takedow notice by Mr friend-of-mine (and that would be comic, since we both live in italy and there is no dmca here)? Fine then, for what i understand a declaration of who created it would be enough. Well then, even if i have to phone to all my past school mates, even if it will take an year to do so, i WILL find it! But, even if i find such declaration, will you accept that? or, perhaps, a simple allegation made by anyone will be enough to void it? By the way, what kind of declaration do you want? the name of who created it? a wall of text? an email? or perhaps a certificate signed by the US president? Apart from jokes, tell me what kind of "proof" do you want and how to make it unattackable or, if you prefer, "un-void-able".

PS I'm not defying the wiki rules, i am just defending myself as would a lawyer do. I am just pissed off that a simple allegation made by mr anyone (who don't know anything about this file) it's enough to say: you're guilty, now we'll punsh you to death. I'll tell you the tings that i already know about this: it was done with photoshop, it was made by one of my school mates, and it was passed to me by mr Grenzi Gabriele. How i can prove this? I can't, you have only my word, which apparently is worth less than shit. --Kyx 23:10, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Your word *is* worth something, but it is not enough for things such as copyright. Unless you have solid proof (which would be a link demonstrating the licensing terms under which it is released), we have to assume it's copyright to prevent ArenaNet from being liable for copyright violations. Aqua (T|C) 00:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Your word is worth something. Your word is "I don't know, my friend found it on the internet, so no copyright issues". It's not that we don't believe you. It's that we do believe you.

Also, in all honesty, you have no valid reason for being so angry. We're not talking about you being in danger of anything. We're talking about ArenaNet (read: people that aren't you) being in a compromised legal situation because of you. You have no right to demand that they pay for a server for you to host the image on, and that they accept your potentially illegal image without complaint. Seriously.

I tried to start off nice all those weeks ago, but you don't seem to be getting the hint. What proof? A link to the image, on its native website. Then we can see it you can or cannot use it. A F K When Needed 00:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

@Kyx There's a bit of a conflict of understanding here, my friend. What these guys are trying to tell you is that even though you believe your friend is the copyright owner (as he/she more than likely is), ArenaNet cannot accept any risk of copyright infringement, even for something as seemingly insignificant as an image for a signature. Such a charge could and would tarnish ArenaNet's hitherto clean reputation as an original content provider. On the flip side, a great amount of leeway is being granted to you; if/when your provide the small token of certainty that is a link to your friend's picture on the native website, ArenaNet would then have solid enough grounds to prove themselves not liable for any charge of infringement brought against them. All they're asking is for a little bit of certainty to protect them, in return for an excellent free hosting of your desired content. Hope I've helped to put your mind at rest :) Darke 01:36, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for bad english but it's late and i'm tired.

Let's start with this "by Italian law, a host, site or provider isn't responsable for what the user do whit its services", so, in the absurde case that my friend would fill a charge, I, and only I will be liable for damages.

"A link wich demonstrate the licensing terms under which it is released"... and that's the problem. For what i know this picture isn't anywhere on the web, so where do i find a link? (for what i know) This picture was "relased" at school, not on the web. the creator has gived it for free to our class, but, excluding me, no one have ever used it. the creator probably have it only on his hard disk. But, by giving it to his friends (and mr Grenzi was one of them) for free use (read: do whatever you want with this image), he gave up his rights as copyright holder. And that's why, if you want a proof i have ony one choice: to phone on every of my school buddies. And that's annoying, to say the least.

@AFK when needed: about this "I don't know, my friend found it on the internet, so no copyright issues", yes, i said that, because at that time i forgotted the true origin of this image. Then when this allegations started i asked some questions to some of my school friends which i am still in contact and i got some answers, but no one remembers precisley who created it. to respond at what you said here if i could, i wuold upload my sign on an external website, but it doesn't work. And i'm not angry, im pissed. What wuold you say if I accused your image to be copyrighted whit no proof? How you would react? (google translated in this way, i'm not sure that it's correct. original italian: "metterti nei miei panni") Try to put yourself in my shoes.

For the reason above, i can't provide a link, i need other means to proof that this is relased upon GDFL. By the way is technically possible to host a signature in a external website and still be able to display it? If it is, Please tell me how, so this issue will end once and for all. --Kyx 01:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Almost every signature images and images used on userpages are checked on copyright violations, it happened multiple times to me and it also happened to other users. We are not doing this to piss you off, we're doing this because of the reasons already stated earlier in this discussion. It may be hard to find the original source/creator, but that is just the thing that is needed in this situation. It may sound rude, but just deal with it, it isn't ment personal in any matter. On your last question I sadly can't give a suiting answer, so you have to wait for other reactions placed by users who have some knowledge about technical and IT know-how. -- Cyan 01:59, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Your English is perfect.

You are aware ArenaNet isn't Italian, right? Their servers aren't in Italy. Italian law has no relevance here. While ArenaNet could in theory take you to court for damages, they would still lose out. Their golden reputation would be dragged through the mud - even more so if they turned around and started suing their own fanbase. With legal fees et al, they would lose out on both tangible (money) and non-tangible (reputation) assets. So, I hope you can understand that their position on the matter is a pretty decisive "tits copyright or gtfo".

You won't like this, but if it's not on the internet, written permission would likely be required. A scan of it, to be more precise. That it was released is heresay (I mean you no offense, I'm just stating things as they are, and would be seen in court). So proof of written authorization would be necessary.

We're not trying to attack your character (you as a person), but legal matters need to be resolved and "it makes me angry" doesn't override that. An instant solution is available; I honestly think at this point that contesting the deletion is more hassle than it's worth. If you were to agree, that would be the end of the matter said, not another word would be said.

To the best of my knowledge externally hosted images can not be used in a signature. A F K When Needed 02:48, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, wtf is going on here. Kyx, you said you don't even know where the image is from, so why are you so attached to it? It's not your's, it's not even your friend's? Think of this as a good time to forge a new identity.

Everyone else, damn that's a lot of text. And that's not so good. --JonTheMon 03:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

@AFK when needed: Even american law has a similar thing: DMCA, title II.

@JonTheMon: I can't draw an image for myself simply because i suck at drawing. I used this img for years and what's the problem if i didn't created it? It's cool, and, mor importantly it's unique, since no one else uses it beside me.

Anyway you want a written permission? fine, you'll have it, soon or (more probably) later you'll have it. Go ahead with the deletion, but if i provide such a permission i'll re-upload my image. --Kyx 21:54, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, you might want to upload a replacement image before I make a lot of red links next to your signatures. --JonTheMon 14:22, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that this is a problem, because, outside this page, i've only commented one single page. And my sign was already deleted (in less than a day, how fast!) on the other wiki (and here i made much more comments). Anyway, a red link will be a good reminder for what i am fighting for. --Kyx 16:34, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

The pages with that image can be found here. In regards to what you are fighting for, that is just a poor attitude to take on the matter. Hopefully you will take away some knowledge on the copyright issues at hand here. Cheers. Venom20 17:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

URLs in links

Heya :-)

As you may have begin to notice, there are black (e.g. unused) brackets around links if you use the full address instead of just an article (e.g. if you link to GWW). That's because if you use an entire address, the link only requires one bracket - at each end - to function.

Also, for linking to GWW, you can use [[gw1:User:Kyx]], if you wish to.

Regards, A F K When Needed 06:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Nightmare Fractal Challenge Mode Rewards

Hey. I noticed that you moved the rewards from Ensolyss of the Endless Torment to Nightmare_Fractal#Challenge_Mode. I had some thoughts on why it would be useful to have hard/data-driven links to the individual bosses and put them in Talk:Nightmare_Fractal#Challenge_Mode_Rewards. However, the main meat of my comment there is a proposal for tying rewards to event objectives and I just wanted your thoughts.--Floodbars (talk) 17:32, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

I got lost on the road of life....

...and posted this over there. I meant to post it here. (Skritt has hard time reading map.) - Do_odleplex 19:22, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

yy i know^^ i never take screenshots because i run on super low specs, when i see a shared model, i search it thereKyx 19:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Okiedokie! I'm not sure who knows it or doesn't know it exist, just wanted to make sure you didn't have to do more work than needed. ^_^ - Do_odleplex 20:01, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Fishing Pole

I've been on a long quest to document bundles. Where did you find this Fishing Pole? SarielV 21:23, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Same area, but on the "right" border of it, underwater near a dwarven archway not guarderd by quaggans or enemies; i just thought it was a random thing that existed already, so i unfortunatley didnt take any screenshot. But it hasnt anything special, just a wooden fishing pole without any skills, if you know where to find such model, its already 100% of the work done. --Kyx 22:26, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

The only one I know of in the game is in the hands of an NPC. Fishing is something that is on the devs' own wishlist, but I don't think they are actively pursuing it right now. SarielV 17:35, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

yeah yeah but like i said, it has no use, its just a pickable fishing pole with no skills, unlike the fishing pole in the crab toss activity (and besides, im fairly sure they have the same model) i'll get a proof screen if i happen to find it again--Kyx 18:03, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Found it again, and uploaded here the model and the spawn location (it's shared between various other random objects, it seems)--Kyx 16:16, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Is there a reason why you uploaded onto another user's user space image?-Darqam 16:33, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

He gave me permission to do so, to show things that exists. edit: and how dumb of me to not havin checked that he created it already, and already with a screenshot too--Kyx 20:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Darq, I gave them permission on the Wiki of Gold to use my image, it's alright. Also Kyx, I'm a she, not a he. ;) - Do_odleplex 21:50, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Alright just making sure. That's something that doesn't tend to happen all too often so it had me slightly suspicious. -Darqam 22:09, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Veteran Toxic Spider

Was it a normal Forest Spider appearance, or was there a special effect like seen with Toxic Skale/Hylek/Spider Queen? Seems an odd choice for the two to be so different and also be the only ones to use normal models. Konig (talk) 06:34, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

they have a green glow and model was *definitley* different (also slight diff in the skill) they naturally spawned during the toxic offshoot event in meremoot hill without upscale(couldnt find any in the other 2 events in the same area)Kyx 17:35, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Okay, the green glow means it needs a unique image, not a shared one. That's what I was mainly looking for. Konig (talk) 22:53, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Attack Descriptions

Please, they were hardly google translate tier. I might not have perfect grammar, but it is a bit hard for me to come up with attack descriptions for moves that don't any have text ingame. Am i supposed to say target? Saying "pushing back players" is way too awkward if you already used target previously, because aren't they, the players?. If you have a better way or a proper terminology to do them, it is better to give an advice than leaving an insult. --Nebilim.5127 20:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Using "targets" instead of "players" it's just a matter of personal preference, it was not the reason for that (abrupt) comment i left. It was for mistakes like breath(es), continually(continously), thrust(s), the lack of a proper subject etc. wich are the kind of mistakes that a less-than-perfect tool like Gtranslate does, wich led me to believe that you wrote it in your language and then fed it to the translator.

Apologies for the mistake if it wasn't the case, and for the "broken english all over the place" that i let go. If you find it difficult to write descriptions, just stick to single sentence facts, like(for firebomb): "throws a fireball. sticks to the ground, inflicting burning", instead of "The ground pulses burning continually.". It won't be pretty, but that way someone can just work out a description out of it, instead of having to do a guesswork; luckly, in that specific case the legendary wyvern had the same attack, so it was just a research and a copy-paste work.

Comment about Gtranslate wasn't meant as an insult, it was meant as a "do not use it"; and sorry for the "broken english all over the place" one, true as it may be, it made the previous one look like an insult Kyx 09:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

How to find IDs

Go in-game, let yourself get affected by the effect, ctrl-click on it, then add /wiki in front of the chat link. Hit enter and the wiki will display the ID for you. --Idris (talk) 18:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Small correction, it's shift+click. Ctrl+click will instantly 'say' it in chat, while shift will paste the message, but not send it. —Ventriloquist 20:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks for the correction! I even looked down at my keyboard to check I wasn't mistaken while typing my initial comment, but my brain just went "well, this key I'm looking at is not alt. I guess that means it's ctrl. That's the only other key aside from alt." -__- --Idris (talk) 20:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Kyx was asking how to get the id of an item that doesn't exist ingame yet, i.e. Festive Confetti Infusion (Healing Power), a non whitelisted item. Sime and I already gave an answer on On Wiki of Gold, I'll quote them here:

• "Comment: - The item doesn't seem to exist in-game yet (either it didn't drop or no one created it in MF yet), so ID probably doesn't exist atm. Sime (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2018 (UTC)"

• "Comment: The item has an ID, it's just not whitelisted yet, as Sime already stated. But one can look at all already available ids (here) and search for the non-existing ones. In this case the infusions id must should be in the range of 84000-86000 somewhere. Unfortunately any fast research for the actual id with copy-pasting the chatcodes is killed by "Cannot link from this location". Otherwise you can ask in the forum to get it whitelisted by hand from a dev. --Tolkyria (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2018 (UTC)"

--Tolkyria (talk) 20:42, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Kyx was also asking how to get IDs for effects. --Idris (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

i was actually asking for both, i just reiterated my question twice, thabks for the tips^^ and, can i also ask about how to find id's from stuff that cant be pasted? like, say, events or achievs Kyx 09:07, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Use Widget:Event table and Widget:Achievement table to get ids for those. For map markers, [[Widget:World map]] has both ids and coordinates. --Idris (talk) 11:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! think it's that is all for every single id that can be found^^ Kyx 23:22, 27 March 2018 (UTC)