Talk:Region

Region names

Is "Maguuma Jungle" used at all in GW2, or is it just being carried over from GW1? File:2012_February_Tyria_map.jpg shows names for large regions and separates what we have listed as the Maguuma Jungle into the Tarnished Coast (which was labelled separately from the Maguuma Jungle even in GW1), Magus Falls, and the Maguuma Wastes.

Also, the area with the Bloodtide Coast, Sparkfly Fen, and Timberline Falls should probably be considered the Steamspur Mountains based on that map. It seems like the Steamspur Mountains are distinctly not part of the Shiverpeaks anymore, and like with areas of the (former) Maguuma Jungle, it seems like the Shiverpeaks, Far Shiverpeaks, and former Southern Shiverpeaks (now the Steamspur Mountains) are now being treated as distinctly separate areas.

And finally, based on that map, we might want to list the Isles of Janthir, Verdant Forest, Blood Legion Homelands, Crystal Desert, Ancient Dwarflands, and Ring of Fire (in addition to Magus Falls, the Maguuma Wastes, and the Far Shiverpeaks) as inaccessible regions. And there's the question of whether the Blazeridge Steppes and Fields of Ruin are part of Ascalon or the Blazeridge Mountains. -- Nineaxis (talk) 18:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

See Explorer. Maguuma Jungle, not Tarnished Coast, is the region in mechanics; there is no Steamspur or Blazeridge Mountains. This page is about the mechanics, and Explorer is our mechanic listings.

In lore, the Tarnished Coast is a sub-region of the Maguuma Jungle (just like Magus Falls and Maguuma Wastes), and similarly so for the Far Shiverpeaks, Steamspur Mountains, and Dwarven Frontier for the Shiverpeak Mountains.

I removed the unexplorable regions because they're unexplorable. Why bother listing them on a mechanic based article? Konig/talk 19:09, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Ah, basing it on the Explorer title makes sense. As far as unexplorable regions go - Cantha and Elona regions are not explorable either, but are listed. -- Nineaxis (talk) 20:30, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

My comment above was in reference to Tyrian regions. Cantha on a whole are not explorable. They're listed so that there's something on this article. Furthermore, since this is mechanic based, we can't tell which of the dozen+ regions and sub-regions are going to become mechanic based. And unlike the Canthan/Elonian regions, listing unexplorable Tyrian regions may prove confusing (that was my line of thought at the time of editing at least). Konig/talk 20:35, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Some consensus should probably be made then, half-documenting what exists because of the possibility of confusion doesn't seem like a really good solution. If the article is solely about regions as a mechanic, and inaccessible regions of Tyria therefore shouldn't be listed, it doesn't make much sense to list regions of Cantha and Elona. In addition, if it's about regions as a mechanic, the Explorer title should probably be mentioned somewhere, seeing as it (and only it?) utilizes regions as such.

However, I'd think that placing a bullet list of unexplorable regions of Tyria under a heading as such, maybe even with a sentence saying "this is a list of regions of Tyria known to exist but not accessible to players" wouldn't be confusing. Or at least I'd hope it wouldn't be. Personally, I think including this information (properly formatted) would help clear confusion, not create it, since it would clarify what regions are and are not explorable without requiring anyone reading to assume that anything not listed is not explorable (and not just missing from the list, or that the area they're looking for isn't just part of one of the listed regions). -- Nineaxis (talk) 21:50, 25 May 2012 (UTC)