Talk:Boon
In the skill tables, can there be a note/link or something to denote that Disenchanting Bolt comes from the Mesmer skill https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Phantasmal_Disenchanter
Enchantment sounds so much better. It will be my personal GW2 goal to turn this word into a joke. Eive 19:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- They're changing things for the sake of changing things, it's all over GW2 so far. Le sigh. Joke away! 203.118.162.28 20:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, a Boon is a very different mechanic from an enchantment. In GW1, when casting an enchantment a character would receive a specific effect belonging to that skill and only to that skill; which ties in how Arena Net described skill building in the original GW, as each skill had to be built individually. In GW2, though, when casting a skill which buffs an ally, said skill will cause one buff among a specific pool of buffs, which are not linked to individual skills which is why so far two skills cause Might Boon). That makes sense considering how skills in GW2 are being built by taking pieces from a large toolbox, instead of being built one by one. Erasculio 23:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Like the interveiw stated, they're going to be more like positive condition, i like the idea, it gives less room for a mistake like shadow form. Vald [Citation Needed] 23:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, a Boon is a very different mechanic from an enchantment. In GW1, when casting an enchantment a character would receive a specific effect belonging to that skill and only to that skill; which ties in how Arena Net described skill building in the original GW, as each skill had to be built individually. In GW2, though, when casting a skill which buffs an ally, said skill will cause one buff among a specific pool of buffs, which are not linked to individual skills which is why so far two skills cause Might Boon). That makes sense considering how skills in GW2 are being built by taking pieces from a large toolbox, instead of being built one by one. Erasculio 23:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Frost armor is very likely not going to be a boon. Some ranger skills have been described as causing a Swiftness boon. Erasculio 00:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Why wouldn't it be a boon, we haven't been told how specific they are, and if you think about it, a lot of skills could possibly fit. Even in gw1, Armor of Frost, Armor of Mist etc, I'm betting they'll have a few more skills like that that will necessitate it. Shadowed Ritualist 00:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- In "Healing and Death," an unnamed skill was described as inflicting Frozen on enemies, but giving Frost Armor to allies. There's not really much else Frost Armor can be. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 02:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't really fit the other boons. We don't have an "Fire Damage" boon, we have a Might boon that just increases damage. LIkewise, I would expect to see a Resilience boon increasing defense, not a Frost Armor boon specifically linked to ice skills. Erasculio 04:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Unless of course Frost Armor was a boon that had a different effect. For example, if it slowed the movement of nearby foes or the attack speed of attacking foes, it may be general enough to fit the boon paradigm. --Emelend 03:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- They could have just called it buff. Buff sounds cooler. Let me boon you....Let me give you a boon....Would you like a boon?....yeah, no. (Xu Davella 18:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
- "I was booning my girlfriend, and I heard a noise and I looked up and it was Bigfoot."
- Not much use arguing whether it's a boon in the technical sense or not, we'll find out eventually. --Kyoshi (Talk) 19:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I actuly like idea of these Boons much more smiple than having 10 enchantment to do same thing than 1 boon?--Azertah 14:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- They could have just called it buff. Buff sounds cooler. Let me boon you....Let me give you a boon....Would you like a boon?....yeah, no. (Xu Davella 18:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
- Unless of course Frost Armor was a boon that had a different effect. For example, if it slowed the movement of nearby foes or the attack speed of attacking foes, it may be general enough to fit the boon paradigm. --Emelend 03:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't really fit the other boons. We don't have an "Fire Damage" boon, we have a Might boon that just increases damage. LIkewise, I would expect to see a Resilience boon increasing defense, not a Frost Armor boon specifically linked to ice skills. Erasculio 04:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- In "Healing and Death," an unnamed skill was described as inflicting Frozen on enemies, but giving Frost Armor to allies. There's not really much else Frost Armor can be. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 02:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Anytime I see the word "boon", I (and any other Australians I'd wager) automatically think of this ╺┛prʘcess.executıʘn┗╸ 06:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
- Epic mustache is epic. Eive 06:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Stealth?[edit]
do we have confirmation that it is a boon and not just a skill? Venom20 13:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'd personally like confirmation that it exists. People need to start adding links to their additions. --ஸ Kyoshi 13:48, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Similarly, where did stability come from? I would have thought that anywhere which mentions it would also say what it does (i assume it stops you from being knocked over) and so there could be a page for stability rather than a red link here. Thering 02:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
duration stacks but not the effect[edit]
See http://www.arena.net/blog/jon-peters-talks-combat, which also lists all the boons. So for example you can't get more health regeneration just longer last health regeneration. Ramei Arashi 06:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
boons for sale![edit]
Apparently boons can be purchased from merchants (and possibly crafted?). Do we already have a page for them, or should we create one, or just add them to this page? For the time being I added a few to Consumable. --Moto Saxon 16:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
- Boon Giver. Aqua (T|C) 16:59, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Insults[edit]
So beeing a Boonhead is a good thing now? DemonicFahrir 18:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Rejuvenation and Smiting[edit]
Do we have access to any recent sources that state whether or not these two effects are actually boons? My listing lacks any official statements regarding them. I do know for a fact that Guru's more respected members classified neither as a boon, but they also didn't classify Aegis as one. That said, we have no references backing Aegis as a boon. We definitely require a source for these 3 virtue effects. - Infinite - talk 14:03, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- I thought it was said on the official site that Aegis is a removable boon. Mediggo 15:06, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for double edit, but what is said on official Guardian profession page would also fortify the conclusion that Rejuvenation and Smiting are not boons, or else they'd have all been stated to be boons. Of course this might have changed over months of iteration. Mediggo 15:12, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Might[edit]
You can stack Might's intensity 93.136.255.187 16:14, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Might say it increases power & condition damage instead of "X damage per stack"? 76.64.41.165 20:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Retaliation intensity stacking[edit]
why is it retaliation is shown to stack in intensity? I thought "Might" was the only boon with that ability. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.148.66.83 (talk).
- Retaliation stacks in duration. What is showing it to stack in intensity? Mediggo 08:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
Maximum Duration[edit]
Would it be worth mentioning that boons that stack in duration seem cap at 99seconds? 174.60.228.165 01:38, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- Effect stacking--Relyk ~ talk > 01:25, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I wasn't really sure if it'd be better here or there, but it currently doesn't exist on either of the pages. Oh it it seems to be 99 seconds, not two minutes, my mistake 174.60.228.165 01:38, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- We had a "max duration" section on some page, or I thought we did. Need a section on effect stacking for all the boons.--Relyk ~ talk > 01:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- After some more testing, it seems that once you have a certain number of seconds of a boon, any additional attempts will fail to add to the duration. So rather than a hard cap, the highest duration you can build up would be (x-1)+the highest duration a single skill can add, where x is the number of seconds where skills stop adding duration. IDK if it should be put anywhere, but I figured I may as well post what I found out in case anyone is curious.174.60.228.165 14:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- We had a "max duration" section on some page, or I thought we did. Need a section on effect stacking for all the boons.--Relyk ~ talk > 01:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I wasn't really sure if it'd be better here or there, but it currently doesn't exist on either of the pages. Oh it it seems to be 99 seconds, not two minutes, my mistake 174.60.228.165 01:38, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- All stacking boons/conditions have a cap of 25 stacks. The difference on duration-stacking is that you don't see the stack number, the game just adds all the durations together and shows that. —Dr Ishmael 14:17, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Determined[edit]
I was going to edit the note about some NPCs having Determined to include players in their WvW safe zones, then realised that it doesn't actually function as a boon - it's an effect, sure, but all effects and boons are displayed on the same line for creatures other than yourself. So um yeah, should Determined be removed from the notes, as it's not really a boon and doesn't behave like one? Or should it be left, adding that player characters gain the effect in their WvW safe zones? Ch8ese (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- No, you're right, Determined is just a basic effect, neither a boon nor a condition. —Dr Ishmael 22:29, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Feedback 2015/07/24: Necro skill Unholy Feast is miscategorized[edit]
Necro skill Unholy Feast s/b moved to "Skills that convert boons to conditions" --67.190.103.161 13:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
- Done. -Chieftain Alex 14:34, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Feedback 2016/10/10[edit]
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rending_Shade Rending Shade steals boons now since the rework and merge of venom traits. Unlisted on this page --72.188.29.122 19:51, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- It's been added, thanks for the feedback! —Ventriloquist 20:00, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Contradictory and Inaccurate Information[edit]
The example provided here about swiftness: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Boon#Stacking_in_duration does not completely agree with the information here: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Effect_stacking#List_of_duration-stacking_effects . As far as I'm aware, the effect stacking page is accurate. 98.113.4.47 22:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Alacrity & Stability[edit]
Add type of stacking (duration or intensity)--97.33.68.88 22:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- There already exists an article about effect stacking. - J.P. 04:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Linking Improves Property "Boons Removed" to Here[edit]
Working on currently getting this page updated to use template:trait list to dynamically update this page when new skills/traits/etc are added. Currently only functions when the skill fact includes "Boons Removed" but won't link up traits that are benefited or improve boons removed. (Such as Enchantment Collapse, Feed from Corruption, etc.) Vingam (talk) 20:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nevermind... Wasn't paying attention lol! I was half awake while using trait list, used template:related traits and it worked beautifully. (Note for future me and other people. <3) Vingam (talk) 20:38, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, you already found it out, I was too slow typing my answer, but maybe some background information won't hurt.
- The template {{trait list}} is for trait facts only (e.g. the trait fact "Might" or "Boons Removed"), internally each fact is stored in a semantic mediawiki subobject and that's what the template asks for. For example see Special:Browse/:Dispelling Force#fact1.
- The template {{trait list by property}} is for any semantic mediawiki property that is related to traits (e.g. the property "Improves boon = Might" or "Improves property = Boons Removed"). For example see Special:Browse/:Enchantment Collapse at the bottom.
- Thus by design {{trait list}} cannot display improved traits, only {{trait list by property}} can. The template you are looking for is {{related traits}} which calls both templates, try:
- Well, you already found it out, I was too slow typing my answer, but maybe some background information won't hurt.
{{related traits|Boons Removed|heading=<trait heading suffix>|heading improves=<improving traits heading suffix>}}
New User: So I am curious about any skill that "shares with allies". Does it include the caster as well? For example, Relic of Leadership — Convert conditions into boons on nearby allies after using an elite skill. I am thinking of playing a harbinger with all of those lovely elixirs. They have many effects which I would love to cancel with the relic of leadership, but I do not know if it effects me as well in regards to boon reward. I wish this game would give more detail with their descriptions as there are a few different ways to interpret the meaning of allies. Minions, Group, squad, just people around you, yourself???? Like it is a bit of a vague term in this circumstance. Also is blight included in this?