Talk:Trick-or-Treat Bag/research

question if nobody got some of those drops how do you guys know they are possible drops?

Is anyone else unable to add drop research? I'm getting a 502 error. Mathmauney (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I can confirm the page has been giving me problems as well. As a workaround, I've been editing the page directly, taking the Trick-or-Treat Bag research line, copy pasting, and modifying it to include my own data. This seems to be working for now; hopefully someone with more expertise than I can resolve the problem in a more elegant manner, as I rather liked the data form. --Arx (talk) 15:12, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Hmm sorry guys. I'll look into this. -Chieftain Alex 18:33, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Couldn't work out why it was keeling over, combining the results occasionally may be required :/ -Chieftain Alex 19:14, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Dragonite Ore drop rate is messed up

I believe the amount of dragonite is messed up on one of the merging edits (Revision Revision as of 19:06, October 27, 2014 by Chieftain Alex, oldid=906583) :( -- Maplemist (talk) 08:06, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

By the way, if I found these kind of problem again, do I report it on its talk page or user's talk page? Thanks. -- Maplemist (talk) 08:17, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

The user talk page will get a response more quickly and alert the user to the issue. Either page is acceptable.--Relyk ~ talk < 11:52, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

for such a simple typo you could have fixed it yourself by subtracting the typo delta amount (20000) from the current value. -Chieftain Alex 19:08, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Personalized Trick-or-Treat Bag research

Can anyone update Personalized Trick-or-Treat Bag/Drop rate to use the new format? I went to add some data I recorded, but the page looks like a complete mess in comparison. I'd attempt to do this myself, but I'm not very experienced with formatting/programming/code and don't want to ruin anything. Thanks. :3 EDIT = Actually, it seems like all the research data for Personalized ToT Bags is outdated, so it can probably just be scrapped.

-Somohexual (talk) 17:14, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/10/24

An editor may want to create a new page for the updated 2015 Trick-or-Treat bags, since the patch did say "The Trick-or-Treat Bag tables have been updated." --Z-Tau (talk) 20:31, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

The bags are definitely not dropping Shiny Wrappers any more, as the Skritt never came back. SarielV 14:44, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

2016 drop rate

I've tried several times to access the form and have not been able to. I keep getting "502 - Web server received an invalid response while acting as a gateway or proxy server."
From 250 Trick-or-Treat Bag - 954 Candy Corn, 9 Rotten Egg, 15 Roll of Toilet Paper, 0 Maize Balm, 21 Bowl of Candy Corn Custard, 12 Flask of Pumpkin Oil, 10 Glazed Peach Tart, 9 Glazed Pear Tart, 21 Lump of Crystallized Nougat, 0 Minor Potion of Halloween Slaying, 10 Piece of Candy Corn Almond Brittle, 20 Sharpening Skull, 10 Spicy Pumpkin Cookie, 12 Strayberry Ghost, 273 Chatting Skull, 246 Nougat Center, 252 Plastic Fang, 0 Charged Quartz, 33 Dragonite Ore, 60 Empyreal Fragment, 34 Pile of Bloodstone Dust, 0 Ancient Bone, 0 Armored Scale, 0 Elaborate Totem, 0 Pile of Crystalline Dust, 0 Powerful Venom Sac, 0 Vial of Powerful Blood, 0 Vicious Claw, 0 Vicious Fang, 0 Recipe: Batwing Brew, 0 Recipe: Candy Corn Custard, 0 Recipe: Crystallized Nougat, 0 Recipe: Major Rune of the Mad King, 0 Recipe: Major Sigil of the Night, 0 Recipe: Strawberry Ghost, 0 Recipe: Superior Rune of the Mad King, 0 Recipe: Superior Sigil of the Night, 2 Bottle of Batwing Brew, 0 Candy Corn Tonic, 0 Concentrating Halloween Tonic, 0 Endless Halloween Tonic, 19 Gargoyle Tonic, 0 Halloween Tonic, 18 Hellfire Skeleton Tonic, 10 Shadow Raven Tonic, 0 Unopened Endless Bottle of Batwing Brew, 0 Aetherkey Piece, 54 Essence of Luck (masterwork), 8 Essence of Luck (rare), 7 Essence of Luck (exotic), 0 Essence of Luck (legendary), 10 Limited-Use Scarecrow Finisher, 3 Limited-Use Mad King Finisher, 0 Gift of Souls, 0 Gift of Spiders, 0 Gift of the Moon, 0 Mini Gwynefyrdd, 0 Mini Zuzu, Cat of Darkness, 0 Old Pillowcase, 0 Oontz's Necklace of the Cat, 0 Oontz's Necklace of the Ghoul, 0 Oontz's Necklace of the Pumpkin, 0 Shiny Foil Candy Wrapper, 1 Jailbroken Adeira Tasharo (talk) 01:11, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

After archiving the 2015 data the form is at least accessible. After submitting your data with the "Save page" button I was not however able to contribute any changes via the form. Bug? -Chieftain Alex 10:50, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Okay I've designed the form using javascript instead of semantic forms. Hopefully it should work as intended... -Chieftain Alex 14:20, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Looks to be working. Added my above drops and another stack to the 100k ToT results already listed. As I was seeing, the drop rate of Pieces of Candy Corn seems much lower than last year. Adeira Tasharo (talk) 23:03, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Just opened 1034 bags and sent the results using the form. However, I also got 1 Recipe: Candy Corn Almond Brittle, which wasn't mentioned on the form. Since I'm new here (and wikis in general), I have no idea how to add that to the table/form, so I figured I'd mention it here. Veli Nalle (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Now that's a recipe with a low drop rate! Thanks I've updated the item and form pages. -Chieftain Alex 09:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

2017 drop rate

Since all the shenanigans we had with the wintersday one (I think) I'd rather not touch this and break it, but it does need to be updated for the current year. - Do_odleplex 09:00, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2018/10/23: Structure

Can someone class the items within the table into rarity types? Or at least add a column "rarity; with the corresponding to each item plz? Would be easier to sort out if rares are that rare or not. --Inquest Overseer Ezrielia (talk) 11:41, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Done (new column which is optionally sortable). Seems your summary was correct though; not all items within the categories have the same drop rate sadly) Chieftain Alex 18:16, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

2019 estimated drop rate per category?

As Sime posted in GW2 WIKI discord: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/djp4jd/100000_trickortreat_bags_do_not_believe_the/ The person making that thread is rather negative about it , but ~1/10,000 odds is still much higher than the ~0.001% from last year across 800K bags. Even only counting infusions, 18/100K is 0.018%.--Life Infusion «T» 18:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Disregarding the non super-rare drops and only considering the 9 Royal Flame Coffers (50-60g) + 18 infusions (estimate these at 100-200g each) the expected value would still be around 2.2-4silvers. --Life Infusion «T» 18:33, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

This user had 8/100K last year https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C-IraCHPgdEMwv35HG7IMOpLPTtxyuT3bG_jAIdiYaU/edit#gid=703377890 --Life Infusion «T» 18:47, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

There's another thread which demonstrates that the above user's data is erroneous: https://old.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/dl3nq6/250_000_trick_or_treat_bags_live_value/. They've given us permission to add their data to the wiki, so I'll upload it in a moment. Another user in that thread also pointed out that our description of how many items you get from each bag was incorrect; Tolkyria and I did some quick research to verify and updated the article accordingly, but I think it'd be helpful to also have a separate research page for this feature, since it's hard to check when you're opening dozens or hundreds of bags in one go as people tend to do when researching total drops, so I've created one here. —Idris 11:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

2022 research reset

I checked the page structure and templates, but I'm not that confident about updating this research with the recent consumable removals, see Trick-or-Treat Bag/historical. It would be advisable, as already three people added post patch drops to this one. In case of Wintersday Gift no post patch research was done, but it will need reset as well. Gorla (talk) 13:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)