Talk:Named armor
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What even is this supposed to be? Searches on the Trading Post and gw2db are pulling up nothing. --Noka (talk) 09:03, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Acquisition[edit]
None of the pages involving these armor sets talk about how to acquire them. Anybody have any ideas? ((Satanael | talk) 02:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC))
Naming[edit]
I think these sets should have a new and better collective term, and this page be moved. We now have other sets that are named after characters, just not from Guild Wars 1 characters. Could we name it something relating to history or heritage? - anja 
12:05, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Named armor is a common player term for these sets of armor, plus heritage armor already refers to something else. We kinda tried "subverting" a common player name for armor by moving Temple armor to Armageddon armor (the name for the temple armor skins as taken from the PvP locker). It didn't go over well. People didn't like it and we wound up undoing it. Psycho Robot (talk) 17:30, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Correction: "we" didn't attempt that, one user attempted that, and pretty much no one agreed with it. —Dr Ishmael
17:44, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- We are all of a single hive mind. Dingus. Psycho Robot (talk) 18:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm just hanging with the wrong people then! I agree with the name (ehehe) if it is an established player term, I've just never heard it myself :) I'm probably going to be questioning a lot that you have done over here until I understand how it works and what your plan was :) - anja
18:44, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm just hanging with the wrong people then! I agree with the name (ehehe) if it is an established player term, I've just never heard it myself :) I'm probably going to be questioning a lot that you have done over here until I understand how it works and what your plan was :) - anja
- We are all of a single hive mind. Dingus. Psycho Robot (talk) 18:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Correction: "we" didn't attempt that, one user attempted that, and pretty much no one agreed with it. —Dr Ishmael
- Personally, I'm with you - I'm not aware of any community name for this collection of armor. That's in contrast to the Temple armor, which was a well-established community term. If we wanted to rename this with an actual discussion and attempt at consensus beforehand (which did not happen on the temple armor move), that would be fine. —Dr Ishmael 19:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe its a server-based thing. I heard it fairly often on TC and Maguuma, but then again, people don't talk about these armor sets very often. I also agree that they shouldn't all be jammed together on this page. My thoughts on the subject is that this should serve as sort of a disambiguation page giving a brief overview of these armors and their acquisition, which then directs players to Pit Fighter's armor et. al. for the galleries. Once I finish up karma item articles I'll put together a comprehensive proposal in my sandbox. Psycho Robot (talk) 19:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- If I understand you correctly, you mean the skin galleries etc should be moved to Acolyte/Pit Fighter/Duelist and the rest of the main information should be on the Zhed's armor etc pages? Sounds good to me, to just keep this page as an explanation and link collection. - anja 06:57, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- If I understand you correctly, you mean the skin galleries etc should be moved to Acolyte/Pit Fighter/Duelist and the rest of the main information should be on the Zhed's armor etc pages? Sounds good to me, to just keep this page as an explanation and link collection. - anja
- Maybe its a server-based thing. I heard it fairly often on TC and Maguuma, but then again, people don't talk about these armor sets very often. I also agree that they shouldn't all be jammed together on this page. My thoughts on the subject is that this should serve as sort of a disambiguation page giving a brief overview of these armors and their acquisition, which then directs players to Pit Fighter's armor et. al. for the galleries. Once I finish up karma item articles I'll put together a comprehensive proposal in my sandbox. Psycho Robot (talk) 19:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Personally, I'm with you - I'm not aware of any community name for this collection of armor. That's in contrast to the Temple armor, which was a well-established community term. If we wanted to rename this with an actual discussion and attempt at consensus beforehand (which did not happen on the temple armor move), that would be fine. —Dr Ishmael
- With the upcoming wardrobe changes, we should probably take all our existing equipment documentation and turn it on its head. What I mean is that for anything that doesn't have a unique appearance, we should document the appearance on a skin page, then we would include a mention of the skin in each item's infobox (and probably use SMW to lookup and display a screenshot from the skin's page).
- I know this would be a TON of work, and of course I would go human-robot-mode on it. I'm going to ask Stefan (the API developer) if there's any chance of getting skin information added to the item API to assist us with this. —Dr Ishmael 12:33, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- You're right, let's wait for the Wardrobe before any major changes. Maybe we will get some kind of unified names for the skins from there, and then we can make those into portal pages. I hope! Anet har let us down before. :P - anja 17:51, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- You're right, let's wait for the Wardrobe before any major changes. Maybe we will get some kind of unified names for the skins from there, and then we can make those into portal pages. I hope! Anet har let us down before. :P - anja
- That's what it looks like from the wardrobe video.
- Sadly, I just noticed something at 1:15 - the Temple armor that we protested and reverted from being renamed to Armageddon armor? ....that's what it's called in the wardrobe. -_- —Dr Ishmael 18:13, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Turns out it's only for the heavy version, the light version is Aurora and the medium is Rubicon. —Dr Ishmael 22:39, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Turns out it's only for the heavy version, the light version is Aurora and the medium is Rubicon. —Dr Ishmael
- Victory is mine then, we keep Temple armor as the overview. -Chieftain Alex
18:01, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Victory is mine then, we keep Temple armor as the overview. -Chieftain Alex
- I've been up to my waist in armor, both karma and otherwise, for the past few months. I have a good idea of what to do with it and as soon as I finish the last 2.5 zones (diessa, fireheart, and frostgorge) I am gonna make a prototype in my sandbox based on my grand experiences. In short, though, my proposal is that we assign one parent armor set page for each skin that's focused on appearances only, then we have an article for each slot in that parent set. For example, we'd have a pit fighter helm article that listed each helmet that has the appropriate skin with detailed acquisition methods. We also document armor subsets, like "yakkington's armor" would be an armor subset article that shows how you get it and the full stats if you were to equip full yakkington's armor. It'd also direct people to the parent set so they could view alternatives for getting this skin. Psycho Robot (talk) 20:32, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds about the same what I was imagining, it's kind of what we have now but better structured. - anja 08:26, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds about the same what I was imagining, it's kind of what we have now but better structured. - anja
- I've been up to my waist in armor, both karma and otherwise, for the past few months. I have a good idea of what to do with it and as soon as I finish the last 2.5 zones (diessa, fireheart, and frostgorge) I am gonna make a prototype in my sandbox based on my grand experiences. In short, though, my proposal is that we assign one parent armor set page for each skin that's focused on appearances only, then we have an article for each slot in that parent set. For example, we'd have a pit fighter helm article that listed each helmet that has the appropriate skin with detailed acquisition methods. We also document armor subsets, like "yakkington's armor" would be an armor subset article that shows how you get it and the full stats if you were to equip full yakkington's armor. It'd also direct people to the parent set so they could view alternatives for getting this skin. Psycho Robot (talk) 20:32, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Bulk/Bot interwiki links[edit]
Fixed Zhed myself, but it seems all named armor don't link to the correct german page anymore e.g. Ogden's armor links to de:Ogdens Rüstung, correct would be de:Ogden-Rüstung since 6 march 2018. Some don't have an interwiki link. And Brutus and Sheena's armor has half the parts named each (also linked to devona set, which I corrected). Can someone automate the page updates (around 150 edits)? —Kvothe (talk) 23:27, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- Belated response, I've updated all of the interwikis (DE/ES/FR) on all of the pages to match the API.
- FWIW you will always get a quicker bot request response on Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Bots since its on my watchlist. -Chieftain Alex 10:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
