Talk:Mystery Tonic (beast)

Imp Tonic is missing from the list, but I don't understand how to add it. --Leen (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Ventriloquist fixed it (I think) with this edit. Tricksy buggers, auto-generated lists: if any of the relevant pages have errors, they just won't appear. — snograt 10:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Ah, beautiful! I was staring at the imp tonic's page source for five minutes and couldn't figure it out. Now it makes sense. Thanks for the heads-up! I found some other minor inconsistencies with tonics and updated them myself. -Leen (talk) 19:07, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

See, the way I see it (I'm far from being an expert) is that the template on this page ({{Recipe list by discipline}} ) looks for every page on the wiki that contains a recipe template with Mystery Tonic as an ingredient. The imp tonic page had, for some reason, Mystery Tonic (beast) as the ingredient, so it wouldn't appear here. At least I think that's how it works - for all I know it could be magic :D — snograt 20:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I compared it with a working recipe page, but somehow I didn't spot the (Beast) part :) In the future, I'll look more closely ;) --Leen (talk) 20:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Form frequency

I swallowed 275 of the damn things and I'm recording my results below for posterity:

Form	#
Fire imp	47
Icebrood elemental	38
Raptor	37
Golem	33
Boar	30
Branded devourer	29
Krait	15
Owl	14
Snow leopard	11
Eagle	7
Pink moa	4
Ooze	4
Minotaur	3
Fern hound	3

--Idris (talk) 12:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

No red moa, guess that verifies that. —Ventriloquist 12:39, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes and no. I didn't get a blue moa, jackalope, pig, or ram, which are also listed as rare forms on this article. Since the least common of the forms I did get only showed up 3-4 times, it's plausible that I was just unlucky with the others. So red moa could still be a potential form. However, in light of the total lack of evidence elsewhere on the wiki in favor of the red moa, I agree that we might as well remove it at this point. --Idris (talk) 12:56, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

So you made me curious Idris, as I have the endless version. I actually got the pink moa and minortor as my final 2. Was kind of mad. 102 of my own data points:

Form	#
Fire imp	19
Icebrood elemental	8
Raptor	8
Golem	18
Boar	15
Branded devourer	13
Krait	1
Owl	10
Snow leopard	2
Eagle	5
Pink moa	1
Ooze	1
Minotaur	1
Fern hound	0

Some more data:

Form	#
Fire imp	485
Icebrood elemental	333
Raptor	413
Golem	362
Boar	290
Branded devourer	372
Krait	145
Owl	257
Snow leopard	89
Eagle	134
Pink moa	39
Ooze	17
Minotaur	60
Fern hound	7
Pig	11
Ram	1
Skritt	1
Bog Skale	1

84.154.67.205 00:04, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Skritt? Oh no. --Rain Spell (talk) 02:30, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Nice work! Thanks for adding more data. I'm not sure how useful this will be for documenting the single-use version, however, as it's entirely possible that the infinite version uses a different table. Your data does look pretty similar to mine, though; the only surprising thing is that huge cluster of owls you got in your second set. --Idris (talk) 03:18, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh that 3rd one isn't me. You're right they may have different tables. Hadn't thought of that.--Rain Spell (talk) 04:08, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

The ip was me, I get logged out sometimes. I found a bog skale transformation while I got more data. Even compared to minotaur etc these seem super rare. Tyndel (talk) 05:18, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Let us know if you catch a red moa. This research was triggered by a link to a "red moa tonic". Red moa tonic doesn't have an article on the wiki and there's no evidence that it ever existed, so I've removed the link, but it'd be great to have either: a) proof that does it exist, or b) a larger data set, to make it more likely that its non-appearance is because it doesn't exist. --Idris (talk) 06:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)