Talk:Flame and Frost: Prelude

A song of Flame and Frost? Winter is Coming!--T-Lo 05:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Or better yet, dragons. 2 of'em!-- 10:08, 25 January 2013 (UTC) P.S. Shame neither is crystal though.

I'm hoping this will be something including Cantha, it should be easier to get there now that Zhaitan is dead, and for some reason the man in the image looks Canthan to me... -- Michiel - 12:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

There will be no dragons, nor Cantha related stuff. I readed it somewhere on the forum, also the man on the picture is most likely a Norn. --Landon144 13:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Except they are on a horse, which is kind of weird for Guild Wars. Mediggo 13:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Could be a Prelude to other dragon-related content? Also, I don't like horses. Qiff 09:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Horses are tasty.... 213.160.12.67 15:35, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

They also seem to be mentioned ONLY in Canthan lore. Do a search for 'horse' on the gw1 wiki and the only relevant result is on An Empire Divided. Also, Kirin were unique to Cantha and very horse-like.--Ph03n1x 22:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Gaile specifically said that this will not add any new dragons and has nothing to do with Cantha. talk 20:27, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Flame & Frost vs also in the update

Do things like guesting belong on this page? Flame & Frost is a storyline, guesting is a feature that was included in the same release. They have nothing to do with each other except the coincidence of being in the same patch. 75.37.16.51 23:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree, just because they were in the same patch doesn't mean they're part of Flame & Frost. Unrelated changes from the same patch should not be included on this page. talk 20:25, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

The game release is specifically called Flame and Frost: Prelude, this specific page isn't just about the storyline, it's about the overall release, hence why it is in the 'Game Releases' category at the bottom. The page about the storyline is here: Flame and Frost, also Guesting is on the Flame & Frost: Prelude release notes, It belongs there. ~Deus 17:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

When is the Flame and Frost event starting?

I visited Wayfarer Foothills and Diessa Plateau but I don't see anything new.

I also had a quick look in Hoelbrak and the Black Citadel and saw nothing obvious relating to it. Anyone else haveing any luck? Titan Crow 09:03, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

The living story content has not started yet. It should begin in a few hours.Qiff 13:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Started! don't follow the road, draw straight lines between Refugee Memento Collectors, and look for Fallen Refugees in Wayfarer Foothills, they drop the Refugee Mementos.--BarGamer 20:43, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Human Only message?

I found when I logged into my human characters, I received an in game mail from Queen Jennah regarding the heralds. NONE of my other characters received this message. Anyone heard of this?? Dargus 06:46, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I've gotten messages for all races. 75.37.16.51 06:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Flame and Frost mail, all of them are on here now--Relyk ~ talk > 09:00, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

I believe mail is account shared, so all your characters will have the same as your other characters, the same as your bank ;) --Landon144 13:17, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Some email is shared, but I got a new email with each alt, even if same race and even after maxing the first (and so far: only) achievement. 75.37.16.51 16:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Only mail sent by other players and the BLTC is account-wide, as far as I know. Everything else is character-specific. —Dr Ishmael 17:12, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Song of Ice and Fire

Though I have no proof, but the names do bear a similar resemblance. Venom20 14:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

"Fire and ice" is a much more widespread theme than just Martin's work. —Dr Ishmael 15:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

And here are some examples. MithTalk 16:50, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

This might be the theme you are seeking, although the themes date back to Dante and the Christian/Jewish bibles, if not even earlier in human history. 75.37.16.51 16:55, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Bobby Stein on how it begins

"Here’s some context on how it works:

• The Flame and Frost story content progresses over time. You will not see everything today, tomorrow, or even the next day.
• Expect subtle changes at first. Maybe you’ll encounter some familiar characters. Perhaps you’ll be introduced to some new ones. You might see a new structure where there wasn’t one before.
• The Living Story content is initially about the thrill of discovery. We’ll put some markers on your map, maybe send you a letter, or parcel out details through certain characters, but the rest is up to you.
• As the weeks progress, you’ll notice bigger changes in the world. New events may appear. Plots will advance and characters will develop.

As always, we welcome your opinions. This is a new thing we’re trying so we appreciate your patience and input."

Bobby Stein, on the official Forums 75.37.16.51 17:24, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Wait ... Horse?

All I recall is yaks and centars, but ... Horse?

Since when we got horses? -Willy sunny 02:49, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Since always. 67.176.148.189 11:48, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Also, artistic license. Serbaayuu 13:54, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Remember, charr ate all horses. When people talk about horses, it's like we talking about dinosaurs, or dodos. That's just artwork. MithTalk 13:59, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, I mean there was no "living" horse in game, all we see are yaks, even in GW1 Willy sunny 01:09, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Colin actually addressed that during his lunch thing recently: "Colin: That concept art piece for Flame and Frost [...] got put out with a guy standing next or riding a horse and by the second we got that put out, everyone said "MOUNTS ARE COMING IN THIS RELEASE" and I was like "Noooo!". Concept art team, you can never do that again! I say, if we ever did do them, we would need to find something really creative and very uniquely Guild Wars 2 to make them fit in the game, cause they don't really make sense in the world - travel is so easy, it doesn't really fit." Vahkris 14:08, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Feedback 2024/09/28

Why is Obsidian Shard labelled as a new material when they were part of the original release of the game? 71.201.198.33 05:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)