Talk:Soo-Won/Archive 1

Drogus

I don't feel the reference is reliable enough to want to change the name of this article yet. It could be the name but I have to ignore the fact it was attached to the wrong dragon in that article and the fact they didn't ask or do enough research to get Zhaitan's name right. In this case, I'd like to see a second reference or confirmation from Anet. --Aspectacle 23:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that, wrong dragon implies more of a mishearing of the name and writing it down wrongly. The author of the article even said that the area was rather loud, suggesting even more that it was just a mishearing of Jormag. Until we get a second mention of Drogus, I don't think we should consider it anything more than a typo of Jormag. -- Konig/talk 01:48, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Characteristics

Do we know anything about the dragon's appearance yet?-- Shew 00:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

All we know of this dragon comes from the Movement. Nothing else is known nor can be deduced aside from when it awakened (which should be 50 years prior to GW2). -- Konig/talk 04:23, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

wait a sec

Gw2 is placed 250 years later form GW1 isent it?,theres around 5 dragons(known),and the Primordis awoke strait after you finish GW:EN,so is it they all awoke around a 50 year basis?Or am i being sceptical?--Neil2250 17:09, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Primordus woke up 50 years after Eye of the North, and yes, they woke up on a 50 year basis (Jeff Grubb stated such during one of the first interviews) - Kralkatorrik waking up very recently (I bet he wakes up during the Fall of Ascalon novel, which is 1 year before GW2). -- Konig/talk 22:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Tentacled Creatures

Possible Sea Dragon?

At the end of the Races trailer you can see a huge tentacled creature. Possible one created by the Deep Sea Dragon.--Sihvahn 14:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I think it is just an evolution of a gw1:Wurm to be honest. -- Konig/talk 17:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I think i agree, it does show a resembalence to it, perhaps put it on?--BloodStain 20:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

We don't add content based on speculation? --Riddle 18:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry König, but I still stick to my opninion. The creature emerges from water and the deep sea dragon's power spans over almost every lake and river across Tyria.--Sihvahn 12:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

We have no clue where this dragon is, or how far its power spreads (it could just be the shore, not every body of water - that is far too big of a sphere of influence compared to the other dragons, which for the others is just the areas around them and spreading out). I honestly doubt that the dragon's power spreads to every body of water. As for whether this is or isn't a minion of the deep sea dragon, it could be, but I doubt it to be the dragon itself - I would think the dragon is deep underwater, not along the shore and definably not mimicking the actions of wurms. -- Konig/talk 04:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I also had my doubts about the range of the power of this dragon when I first read this article. The Movement of the World sometimes mentions the dragons using their breath as a source of magic or power. Some examples are Primordus using his breath to create life out of stone and Kralkatorrik's breath corrupted and changed creatures when he was flying over the continent. So I guess the deep sea dragon only inluences bodies of water within a limited range. --Sihvahn 16:13, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Thats a wurm u can see its face is spread out.--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 20:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I meant to put just a regular wurm...>.>--♥Icyyy♥ 03:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

End of Manifesto Trailer-> this is the guy..?

Stated to not be an Elder Dragon. Neither Jormag nor the DSD. -- Konig/talk 16:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Awesome

Anyone else expecting about a jillion Cthulhu references? 24.147.157.5 23:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I read "Deep Sea Dragon" and then "Tentacled Horrors" and Cthulhu was the first thing to come to mind. I expect that this dragon and its minions will be very Lovecraftian, if not a(n in)direct copy-pasta from the Cthulhu Mythos. --Riddle 18:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I doubt they'd have a direct copy-paste from the Cthulhu Mythos, Anet is known for its originality - sure, they use references (especially as of late), but they are usually original in the lore and designs of creatures. So I will bet there to be references to Cthulhu, but not mimicking it. -- Konig/talk 04:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget that he's an Elder dragon. The picture is strange, though: It looks more like a giant squid than a dragon's tail. Paddymew 16:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

The terms elder dragons and elder gods have no relation aside from being, well, elder. :P -- Konig/talk 21:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Well... That, and being evil and immensely powerful. Paddymew 13:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Grubb has often said that he is a big fan of lovecraft and plays the cthulhu RPG quite often with his circle of friends..Geist

Ideas on looks?

I mean say the tenticals belong to DSD ....what the Mist would he look like? Zachariah Zuan. 16:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

villan from stephen kings "The Mist" 74.130.41.81

I would expect a dragonified prehistoric giant alligator or Nessie. :P Rose Of Kali 17:06, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Funny, since noone has ever really seen either of those :P Paddymew 20:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Possible name

File:Lorthos-the-tidemaker.jpg - Here. I'll slap a move tag on the page to get some discussion going here. --Santax (talk · contribs) 10:56, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't think so mainly due to most of the images you uploaded at the same time are either older than when the artists were allowed to put up GW2 works, or were stated to be independent works from Anet. Also, "Lorthos the Tidemaker" sounds like a boss kind of name, not some ancient dragon's name. -- Konig/talk 12:01, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

That's Magic: The Gathering concept art (http://kekai.blogspot.com/2009/09/lorthos-tidemaker.html Kekai).-- Shew 18:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Maybe just Lorthos?----IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 09:09, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

And it's still Magic: The Gathering concept art. --Naoroji 09:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I will just thrust my idea forward HERSHAL --Neil2250 10:25, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I just think they should name it...----IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 17:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

There better be a reason they haven't named it yet... -- Konig/talk 19:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Nope, its just to annoy us, or give it a fan name. :P --aut /(t) 19:14, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

They would do something like that but I think it deserves a good name not ones that have no meaning close to deep sea.--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 19:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

For some reason I keep picturing the Deep Sea Dragon as some sort of secretive, quiet being. Sort of an ethereal being, really. The kind of thing that sits in the background, rarely seen but often leaving effects of its presence. ^^ But, I suppose we don't know what it looks like or what its "personality" is like, so we can't really give adequate names until we know more. --Amannelle 19:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Im still tryin to figure out the flipping professionss): i want necro,rangers,and mesmerz--IcyyyBlue ♥♥ 20:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

The dragon hardly goes unnoticed. Its minions sprout out in rivers and lakes. But the dragon itself might not be seen unless someone goes for a long swim. -- Konig/talk 20:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I was referring to the minions when I said "but often leaving effects of its presence". ^^ --Amannelle 21:08, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Oops, perhaps I should've used "evidence" instead of "effects"? Lol sorry about that; I'm still half asleep. ^^; --Amannelle 21:09, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

*COUGH*ABAD*COUGH*DON*COUGH* --Ravencroft0 08:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Abaddon is 1) not a dragon and 2) dead. -- Konig/talk 08:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

meh. --Ravencroft0 11:00, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Cthun anyone? Themastermoo 15:57, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Cthun, eh? Unless, that's a typo for Chthulu, no --Ravencroft0 12:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

the dragon is called bubbles imo--92.4.197.187 00:23, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

A possible name could be Maris: Latin Translation being "Of The Sea" Sklv55 03:57, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) No speculation kthnxbai. Aquadrizzt (talk)(contribs) 02:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Concept Art

I doubt that the picture depicts the DSD... There's nothing dragon-like in that tentacle. If you ask me, I think it's one of his/her minions - that have been described as tentacles that erupt from every lake and river of the land (mind you, it could be an exaggeration). After this little derail, here's my suggestion: I think we should completely remove it, or add a subtitle that informs the viewer that it is possibly a minion of the "Deep Sea Dragon". --Thalador Doomspeaker 13:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, in the Art of GW2 book, that image is in the Orr section, next to Zhaitan's minions. I'm removing the image because it is speculation. -- Konig/talk 19:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Depth Limit

I can see this dragon being used to limit how far/deep we can go with our fancy new swimming powers. Once you swim down a certain amount, these "tentacled creatures" could insta-kill you or something... just a thought. ~ Bow 08:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

No, will be better if you become a tentacled creature! Obaby. :o --Super Igor 11:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Obaby, will there be mermaids around tied up with seaweed when that happens? Rose Of Kali 17:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Hurr, they forgot

Honestly, the fact that there still is no name for this fifth dragon makes me wonder whether ArenaNet intends to ever reveal this dragon, or if they'll just retcon it into oblivion. --Sirrush 10:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe they're saving it for an expansion? Rose Of Kali 17:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it is more likely that Anet wants some of the enemies to be a mystery when the game is released. -- Konig/talk 03:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

They've said we won't even fight the dragons besides Zhaitan in the first release of the game. They don't even need to name it yet. --Kyoshi (Talk) 03:13, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Wrong, what was said (by Ree) is that Zhaitan will be the one will be the focus but all dragons will be able to be fought. I suppose that means "if you fight and nearly defeat a dragon, he'll fly away too quickly to follow" or "when he gets to 10% (or so) health, their health refills" or something. -- Konig/talk 03:55, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I was reading an older interview today (thought it was from Kill Ten Rats but I checked just now and couldn't find it) that said something about Zhaitan being the focus and the other dragons being saved for future expansions, or something. Ehh, may have misread. --Kyoshi (Talk) 05:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that would be "the focus for the other dragons are being saved for later expansions" - as in, we'll fight them in the initial release, but not defeat them. They'll still be around in the future. -- Konig/talk 05:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I would say it's one of the dragons which might have risen in the sea at the very west of GW's Umbral Grotto? Ge4ce 05:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Thing is, even if they were, for some reason, saving the dragons for another expansion, it currently wouldn't make a lot of sense to withhold this particular dragon's name. We know all four other names, after all. And if they wanted an enemy to be a mystery, why not keep Zhaitan a mystery, instead of some other elder dragon? The only reasonable in-lore explanation I can come up with atm is that even the Dwarves were not aware of this fifth dragon. But then I suppose we would've known by now if that were the case. I guess all we can do is wait and see. --Sirrush 17:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I think that maybe they haven't named it for a reason. Prehaps it's linked på something we know from Guild Wars 1 such a being the mother of Glint, or something like that. Maybe they haven't named the dragon themselves yet(which they should)or they just forgot it. You pick what you think sounds best.The Slayer 09:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Even if the Dwarves didn't know about the DSD, that's not a good lore excuse. As soon as they were attacked by it, the other races wouldn't just wait until he introduced himself «Ohai! I'm <DSD's name>. I hope we can be best friends forever!! Oh, no, I just remembered I need to kill every living being... Oh, well.», they would have made up some name. They COULD have called him just DSD, but that's just lame. I agree with The Slayer, the DSD's identity must be related to something from GW1 and they're just waiting for the right time to announce it. I don't believe they could just have forgotten it. --217.129.133.230 23:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) You're setting yourself up for disappointment, IP. They probably just haven't said its name because they don't want to. There doesn't have to be a meaning behind every act. Anet isn't the U.S. government, after all *grabs tinfoil hat* -- Konig/talk 02:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I see what you did there. ;P I guess that if they "don't want to", they still need a reason, even if it is "we're not in the mood for it". I was hoping GW1 references, but I reckon you're right, it's better not to have high hopes. --217.129.133.230 16:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

But Konig, then I have to wonder why they are withholding this dragon's name. After all, Zhaitan is the primary antagonist. --Sirrush 16:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this dragon has awakened closer to Cantha, and knowledge of its existence has been hindered by Cantha's isolationist stance and Zhaitan's undead hordes blocking passage. If someone managed to escape Zhaitan's clutches on their way to Cantha, perhaps they would encounter this dragon just before they reach the southernmost continent. I would suggest it awakening in Elona, but the Order of Whispers would most likely have informed people of this, or at least told the Vigil. Fabala011 17:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

An interview (linked on the article) states the Durmand Priory is the one who wrote the Movement of the World, as such it is them, at least, which have knowledge of it. They also state its not much known by others because it hasn't been a real threat to the major races of Tyria (human, charr, norn, asura, sylvari). Durmand Priory is unknown to have access outside Tyria, so it is highly likely to be around Tyria itself. My guess remains on the western or northwestern coasts (the northwestern being the body of water with the black-ish island in it in the EN map). -- Konig/talk 18:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Drakkor

Maybe it's Drakkor the one who was frozen underneath Drakkor Lake in GW.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.190.49.38 (talk • contribs).

First, please sign your comments with four ~'s. Second, it's Drakkar. Third, that dragon was Jormag. --Naoroji 07:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

who says it doesn't have a name?

Just because we don't know its name doesn't mean it doesn't have one. Ramei Arashi 04:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Hence "currently unnamed" - as in "unnamed to our knowledge" -- Konig/talk 04:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

No, that's not what the word unnamed means. It should say that name is currently unknown not that it doesn't have one. Ramei Arashi 16:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

It can be used for both, according to dictionary.com; not indicated or mentioned by name; unidentified. That would fit this dragon. Eive 16:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

the main thing to me with this dragon is its awakening is not even mentioned in the timeline, and all the other dragons are. which leads me to think they may of scrapped the idea of it all together. if you look at the other dragons they all seem to have a purpose ,they are mostly all in places that cut tyria off from the rest of the world, the deep sea dragon just seems out of place as zhaitans pretty much got the seas covered ArthasShadowsong 15:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Zhaitan has the surface of the seas covered, who knows what lies in those murky depths... Remember, underwater exploration will play a big part in GW2. --Odal talk 15:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Zhaitan also only has the southern seas - in fact, just the Strait of Malchor, which isn't even a sea, covered. There's the western coast, that northwestern sea, and south of Zhaitan for the dsd to be in. -- Konig/talk 15:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

well i finished reading ghosts of ascalon today and all drgons were mentioned in it with the exception of this supposed deep sea dragon nor was it in the time line at the start of the book, i think the idea of its been dropped personally ArthasShadowsong 23:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to this [1] interview, we know he still exists (unless I misread it once again >.<) Matt Browne 12:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I say we call him steve.--Neil • 12:23, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Either dsd or Bubbles. Can't have too many nicknames for him. -- Konig/talk 12:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I personaly now agree with bubbles.--Neil • 12:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Bubbles' cool. Matt Browne 16:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I also support Bubbles. And as far as GoA not mentioning him, recall that the Crystal Dragon woke only a few years prior. It's perfectly possible for Bubbles to break the surface of his seas in the next year or so. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.227.77.62 (talk).

1)The dsd is most likely to have awoken about 50 years prior to GW2. 2) We already know why it wasn't mentioned in GoA, in fact it was implied in the GoA when Dougal said "there may be more out there" (or whatever the words were). Just go to the reference on this article for that. -- Konig/talk 06:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Personally I like the idea of the dsd. I mean, why should we know every detail about a group of creatures that being underneath them leads to becoming a zombie? The thing is, we shouldn't. This dragon most likely lives in the sea, so who would ever even find out what it looks like, let alone ask it it's name, or any special abilities it might have. Eive 20:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Ask it for a name? It's an interesting concept, and I see where you're coming from, but I think you're a bit off the mark.

I doubt that Kappa, plants, birds, dinosaurs, etc. all happen to speak a language known to human beings - if they even have a language. And yet they all get generic names, more to the point, they get named bosses. Those names didn't come about from a plant boss walking into Jokanur Diggings and saying "Yo, call me Steve!" - the names came about from the locals giving them names. The names aren't necessarily how enemies refer to themselves, those capable of such thought in the first place. So while Dragons might not be sitting down and chatting with you over lunch, they'll all have names. I mean seriously, Zhaitan has one and who has he - it sounds like a masculine name imo - been chinwagging with? A F K When Needed 21:21, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm for getting a movement going to call him bubbles, if we get enough people to do so well... its like afk said, enemies get their names from people. so who else votes we retitle this page bubbles;)Indigo121 18:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

OK I'm with Bubbles, someone wants to put it in Trivia that it's nicknamed Bubbles? I think enough people agree with it to say that most people will be ok with the name :) Prince Grazel 21:30, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Bubbles, agreed, the name is more commonly used than any other nickname, though, not by me. :P --AdventurerPotatoe - 21:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) This dragon is also called the Deep Sea Dragon, Deep Sea dragon, DSD, dsd, Dragon of the Deep, Sea Dragon, Joe, Bruce, Malchior, and many many MANY others. We shouldn't put such pointless notes in the trivia - might as well say Kralkatorrik was referred to as Grothmar, Jormag as Drakkar, Zhaitan as Malchior (Orrian Dragon, Dragorrian and some other combinations of Orr(ian) and Dragon - and other names). Pointless to put such trivia as it will be irrelevant once the name is revealed. -- Konig/talk 23:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

And Bubbles is the most common name. --AdventurerPotatoe - 00:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Stop being such a buzz kill Konig--Emmisary 00:17, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Bubbles may be the most common but it is not universal nor is it used by the majority. Most people I have seen refer to it as the dsd - I've only seen people referring to the dsd as "Bubbles" at GW2Guru and here, and even then it isn't even close to unanimous. It's not about me being a buzz kill or not. -- Konig/talk 00:48, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The DSD name should be removed, its an acronym not a nickname.(Theres even a redirect) --AdventurerPotatoe - 01:00, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Dude your a total buzz kill. All the other names make it lame, why don't you go run along and mess with this page.--Emmisary 01:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

[2] You're a bigger buzz killer than Buzz Killington. :P --AdventurerPotatoe - 01:13, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

The wiki isn't meant for jokes. The page Emmisary linked is an exception as it was an April Fools joke and remains as a documentation of such. This holds no benefit and you shouldn't keep things incomplete. Yes, "dsd" is not a nickname but an acronym hence "or DSD/dsd for short." It is a pointless trivia note. -- Konig/talk 03:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

OKay, I didnt know jokes werent allowed on the wiki. But I'll remember that. But do we really need an acronym that already has a redirect to this page? It kinda feels wrong in a way.--AdventurerPotatoe - 06:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Joe

I think he should be named Joe till the real name is released ^_^--Icyyy Blue 22:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

I believe the wiki community has decided on Bubbles. Eive 18:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

How about Bruce? I think that's a suiting name? Prince Grazel 19:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Fish are friends, not tentacle-minions. --Kyoshi (Talk) 20:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

No, his name cannot be Joe. That name belongs to someone far more important and immaculate. P.S.: Kyoshi, did you really just reference Finding Nemo? :P -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 20:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Omgosh I miss Joe! And when did we choose Bubbles?!?! Where was I?--Icyyy Blue 01:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

We didn't choose bubbles. One person brought it up and it spread through some of the GW2Guru community and those who are there and here brought it over. It isn't even that commonly used among the GW community. -- Konig/talk 03:15, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Admit it, Konig, you secretly knew all along that Bubbles was its real name. ;) You and your secrety wisdom, you. --Amannelle 03:30, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I had never even heard of bubbles until today Venom20 03:43, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Ill pee my pants if it actually is Bubbles(not likely)--Icyyy Blue 03:46, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

@Sparky: Yes, yes I did. --Kyoshi (Talk) 05:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Bubbles

Every one who wants to name this dragon unofficially Bubbles please comment and sign so maybe we can put it in the trivia due to popular demand Prince Grazel 00:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I like bubbles --SIerra213.98.67.233 01:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

A killing game and Bubbles!?!?!FUNNY--Icyyy Blue 01:20, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Bubbles FOR THE WIN. Eive 03:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

You want official unofficial confirmation? Cool. --Kyoshi (Talk) 05:22, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

bubbles pwns us :D --The Holy Dragons 13:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

bubbles is stupid.(now lets let everyone get mad about my opinion)--Icyyy Blue 20:04, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I vote they make bubbles the official name in-game. 72.1.105.49 03:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I vote ur vote doesnt matter cuz ur not logged in ^_^--Icyyy Blue 03:25, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

bubbles FTW - he will be a giant guppy!! Getefix 20:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

[3]It's Bubbles! 82.95.65.117 05:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Squirtle... use Bubblebeam! ROAARRRRRRR «KIrnpt» 06:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Name

In a interview done by a member of GW2 Guru, Anet staff said this Dragon's name was said in GoA, Do you think they were joking or telling the truth? - Giant Nuker 19:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Link to the interview. As far as I know, none were lore buffs - one of them even said to not know the dragon's name. But considering "There's a reply saying that these kind of details will come out in "due time" and that the name is actually mentioned in the book Ghosts of Ascalon. Zyuu asks, "so I should tell people to buy the book then?" and they reply, along with a lot of laughter, "yeah!"" it sounds like a joke, but I'm still needing to re-read the book and take extensive notes, so I for one will be noting down all names tossed around in the book. -- Konig/talk 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

My exact thoughts - Giant Nuker 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Throughtout that entire book I was looking at odd names. Never once did something pop up that could've been Bubbles. Eive 21:01, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

think they'll make a joke of bubbles and name hime selbbub? - its a nice name for a dragon Getefix 21:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Lol extensive notes on the book.--Emmisary 21:36, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I heard that comment in the interview and started swearing. I've passed the book on to my son to read. Now I'll have to find another copy. Darcy 22:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm a lore nerd, there's lore in the book... why wouldn't I take note of the book so that I can accurately document the lore from the book? Haven't gotten around to it yet though (busy >.>). -- Konig/talk 22:47, 22 August 2010 (UTC)