Talk:List of necromancer traits
Thought I'd give tables a try. Pretty much just copied the format and colour used in the Necromancer skills page. Took me frikkin' ages! (Xu Davella 17:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- err, and link... :) I don't know where to put in or how to organize the table so that it can say whether the trait is minor or major, input=good. (Xu Davella 17:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- I think those are kinda awesome. Add a row that lists them as major or minor, and maybe a row for the (lol) trait icons. Aqua (T|C) 17:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Aka as: am I allowed to edit? Aqua (T|C) 17:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'll add in another column listing each trait as minor or major, but we should think of another way to list it. Having a column with minor minor minor major minor is pretty annoying to look at. Unless we have icons that represent minor and major? (Xu Davella 17:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- *gasp* YES~!! of course!(Xu Davella 17:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- From the screenshot in the Trait, we can see the major trait are in star shape while the minor ones are in hexagon Chanw4 17:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah yeah that's right. So then we can just use the trait icons and not have to worry about adding in that other column at all. (Xu Davella 17:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- Eh, I would prefer trait icons to go in the same column as the trait name I think. And see what I did with Major vs Minor... Aqua (T|C) 17:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think he meant a Major and Minor separation is not needed since the icon will tell the user whether it is a Major or Minor trait like you don't seperate elite and non-elite in GWW Chanw4 17:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Eh, I would prefer trait icons to go in the same column as the trait name I think. And see what I did with Major vs Minor... Aqua (T|C) 17:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah yeah that's right. So then we can just use the trait icons and not have to worry about adding in that other column at all. (Xu Davella 17:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- From the screenshot in the Trait, we can see the major trait are in star shape while the minor ones are in hexagon Chanw4 17:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- *gasp* YES~!! of course!(Xu Davella 17:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- I'll add in another column listing each trait as minor or major, but we should think of another way to list it. Having a column with minor minor minor major minor is pretty annoying to look at. Unless we have icons that represent minor and major? (Xu Davella 17:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- Aka as: am I allowed to edit? Aqua (T|C) 17:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think those are kinda awesome. Add a row that lists them as major or minor, and maybe a row for the (lol) trait icons. Aqua (T|C) 17:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Regardless, major vs minor should be distinguished by more than a 25 pixel tall icon. We have as much space as we need, why not make it a helpful reference?
Right now, when I see that, I think, "what trait line?" I pick Soul Reaping. Then I think, "what type am I looking for?" I pick major, and then I have a list of all the traits with their trait icons and descriptions right there. Aqua (T|C) 17:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- eh, I would have done it the retarded way - I like it. Those minor/normal/superior traits are a pain to look at. (Xu Davella 17:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- And now both are good. Aqua (T|C) 17:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should we wait for further input? I'm happy for it to be put into the main article. (Xu Davella 17:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- The answer to the "should we wait" question is yes. But I have provided a way to kill that time. I'm going to make all the other profession ones (not sure about guardian), in the page you linked to, and then yeah, people can decide i f they like them or not. Aqua (T|C) 17:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- By the time I write "is there anything you want me to do" you would have already done everything. So I'm going to float around like a mofo and pretend I'm making a contribution. :P (Xu Davella 18:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- There's a "you rock" in there somewhere. (Xu Davella 18:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- By the time I write "is there anything you want me to do" you would have already done everything. So I'm going to float around like a mofo and pretend I'm making a contribution. :P (Xu Davella 18:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- The answer to the "should we wait" question is yes. But I have provided a way to kill that time. I'm going to make all the other profession ones (not sure about guardian), in the page you linked to, and then yeah, people can decide i f they like them or not. Aqua (T|C) 17:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Should we wait for further input? I'm happy for it to be put into the main article. (Xu Davella 17:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
- And now both are good. Aqua (T|C) 17:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Reset indent) DONE! Aqua (T|C) 19:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- IMO, it feels a bit too... Blocky? I would add the different colors (to help in telling apart major and minor traits) such as we have on the skill lists, and increase the width a bit; I think even under lower resolutions there is still plenty of empty space to the right. Erasculio 21:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- There really is barely any space left.. - Infinite - talk 22:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- We could do percentages, but I'm a bit skeptical. Aqua (T|C) 22:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is kinda ulgy : P Erasculio 22:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Is that after or before I did percentages? Aqua (T|C) 22:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) I know, have you seen my resolution? Everything is white. I think low resolutions > high resolutions. It's better if low resolutions can ACTUALLY view it all. :P - Infinite - talk 22:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is kinda ulgy : P Erasculio 22:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- We could do percentages, but I'm a bit skeptical. Aqua (T|C) 22:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- There really is barely any space left.. - Infinite - talk 22:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Comparison: [[:File:User Infinite Myeah.jpg]] If percentage; please set an equal max width to all. - Infinite - talk 22:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- How bout now? Aqua (T|C) 22:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would prefer something very slightly bigger (75%, maybe?), but it's good enough for me as it is. Erasculio 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Almost, I think 80% max should do it on smaller (although that makes it spaced on bigger), let me have a go, please. - Infinite - talk 22:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Max-width[edit]
I'm on my Wii, is it still consistent everywhere? - 84.31.15.202 23:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Doesn't look like it. - Lucian 23:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)- Then I don't understand why.. - 84.31.15.202 23:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Can anyone find out why? - 84.31.15.202 23:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't help, but it's consistent on my phone! :D - 84.31.15.202 00:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is consistent on my phone as well. Aqua (T|C) 00:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oops, I thought u said inconsistent. - Lucian 0:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is consistent on my phone as well. Aqua (T|C) 00:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't help, but it's consistent on my phone! :D - 84.31.15.202 00:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Can anyone find out why? - 84.31.15.202 23:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- Then I don't understand why.. - 84.31.15.202 23:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Well, we can't leave it like this; it breaks low resolutions, can I have a go at them again? Cheers~ - Infinite - talk 16:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Trait Icons[edit]
As Chriskang brought up, there is no usage of trait icons on these pages anymore. I would like to mention that I had previously "show-previewed" a trait icon next to the trait name or even in another column, neither looked that good, as the icons we do have a rather low in quality, and the ones we don't have make it mostly empty space. I would suggest waiting on the usage of trait icons until we can get high quality ones (from screen shots or otherwise). Aqua (T|C) 00:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Changes[edit]
It seems those attribute traits do not apply anymore, since the attribute mechanics has been changed. Do we have any update from this based on the last demo? - Guldur
Traits updated from beta weekend of March 23 - 25[edit]
The traits have been updated from the most recent beta via this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxa5wGYTSbo. Peregrination 17:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Faulty Link[edit]
I don't know how to edit the info inside the boxes, but someone who does needs to fix the redlink under Death Magic [[Jagged Horror|Jagged Horror]] and make it Jagged Horror. ~ Bow | 08:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)