Talk:Game updates/Archive 1

Page creation

So, how long until we create this page? The game is released. Previously Unsigned 03:59, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Can we bump stuff? Back to the recent change list with ye! Previously Unsigned 11:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

To do list

• The older updates section needs to start at August. I'm terrible with DPL, however, so someone else do it.
• Game updates:September 2012 should be renamed Game updates/September 2012, but this page's DPL displays all subpages of "Game updates", so that would be displayed too. Someone either update the DPL or tell me SMW would do it better.

Any objections to how this has been implemented? It's basically just a copy of GWW's update notes, with the main difference being "/yyyy-mm-dd" instead of "/yyyymmdd". pling 15:19, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, this is one of the cases where DPL actually does something SMW can't (at least not easily) because it's not designed for transcluding full page contents. However, it only required a simple change to the DPL - since a numeric year is first in the actual update pages, and the monthly ones start with the month name, I just added a "2" before the wildcard. —Dr Ishmael 15:41, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Simple fixes are always the best; just remember to update it in 987 years or so. pling 16:50, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Listing build number

Could it be possible to list the build number along the version, at least from now on?
—Faalagorn☎/✓ 23:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC).

Info Box

The most recent update (currently Friday, 14 September 2012) is listed twice, with the first one linking to the talk page. Is this intentional? Considering the (talk) link already does this, it seems redundant. I would fix it myself, but I have no clue how the template works... I'll certainly look into learning this, but currently I'm really more of a proofreader. ;-) 131.151.60.38 02:05, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Fixed, the DPL wasn't restricting itself to mainspace. —Dr Ishmael 05:15, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Ack :/. Thanks for fixing it. pling 12:03, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

sept 18/19 2012 update?

can't tell if it was done on the 18th or the 19th. very close to midnight. either way, it was 469 files, 146.65mb. Previously Unsigned 08:11, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

This comment actually got me curious, how about listing how many files was changed (and maybe size as well) + the build number? That would give an idea how "big" the update is (lots of files = new content, few files = just patches)
—Faalagorn☎/✓ 14:34, 20 September 2012 (UTC).

This idea was discussed a few times on the GW1 wikis, but I don't think it ever got any traction. The amount of update notes is usually more relevant to the qualitative assessment of how "big" an update is than the number of files. The number of files does not correlate to the amount of new content, either, since they could make a high-level change to a single game system like the map that would require updating all files related to that system - this would result in a large update with no new content. Size is deceptive, because some files are transferred in a compressed format while others are not. Build number is fairly meaningless as it merely reflects how many times a developer checked in new/updated code - a big change could be implemented and tested with only a few check-ins, where a small change might require a hundred check-ins before it passed QA.

tl;dr While these numbers could certainly be documented, they aren't very informative. —Dr Ishmael 14:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree that the build number is more or less irrelevant. When it comes to games, the build number merely reflects how major the change was. This might be handy if it wasn't for the fact that Guild Wars 2 is an online game and therefore you have to download the latest build. If it was an offline game then the build number would help determine whether the update affected you or not. — Andrealinia 14:56, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Other Languages

I was wondering if it is possible to add interwiki link to Spanish version [1] of updates. Info in spanish wiki is constantly updated with news that are made here. Thanks, Worvast

Done :). If you can, you can add a [[en:Game updates]] line at the bottom of Spanish page now, so it'll be properly linked now.
—Faalagorn☎/✓ 14:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC).

LOD

What's LOD? Since it appears in an actual game update, seems to warrant having a redirect or a glossary page created for it. -- ab.er.rant 10:01, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Added a link to Wikipedia based on what I believe it means. poke | talk 10:05, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Dungeon rewards

actually i think there`s a mistake, first completition of the day gives 45 tokens Rick Fulton 17:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

It's bugged and some people are not receiving as many tokens as they should. Vili 点 17:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Level of Completeness?

Since the official patchnotes (Game updates) certainly do not contain every change made it would probably be a good idea to inform the players about this. Maybe there is even a way to avoid or reduce the task of finding all the undocumented changes via trial and error or by pure chance. Important stuff like trait, skill or item changes/bugfixes should be completely mentioned in the patchnotes, or so I guess players would like it. For example, one of the 'leech' (vampiric) traits of the Necromancer profession is mentioned in the 1st of October patchnotes. The other leech-based traits (e. g. minions leeching health when attacking), while probably fixed as well, are not mentioned. I deem it unlikely that ArenaNet fixed the one and left the others unchanged. Eronaile 17:48, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I suggested tracking down changes to game files, so we could see what files were changed - that would allow to "easily" see for example if any new items were added, or if any string was changed. There was a problems around it though, one being the fact that GW2 dat format doesn't keep track of file names and file types. It is possible to recognize most file types, for example looking on it's header or file structure, but it's not so easy as with other game files formats. Whole discussion was here Talk:Game status updates#Undocumented updates.
—Faalagorn☎/✓ 10:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC).

Update Size

So anyways - I noticed that GW2 updates are much bigger than what GW1 updates used to be - is it possible to post the update size along with each update? For those of us with SSDs who need to make space this is a very helpful number. A Liability 05:53, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

the update 10-24-2012 at 5:25 was 47mb big A Liability 05:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Candy Corn Nodes

Im glad they fixed those phantom candy corns from appearing and disappearing. Those were scaring me i had thought my computer couldnt fully process that Halloween had been over or that i was just being haunted by phantom candy corn. I kept asking in map chat if anyone else saw anything, no one had seen them or responded to me. Mad King Thorn didnt get his fill of fun over the holiday he had to continue to torment me. 71.109.96.216 22:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC) GasMaster

Anyone else just crashed? Pretty much my whole guild en everyone who was with me doing a meta-event in malchor's got booted out, I received an error saying "incorrect password", while still being logged in... MindShock 23:08, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Update 1 - 17 November 2012

Fixed a bug with trait and item cooldowns. They will now carry over properly after players are defeated and revived. Fixed issues with the Lost Shores event content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.11.151.196 (talk • contribs) at 14:18, 17 November 2012 (UTC).

Can someone please fix the most recent game update page so it says Arah explorable mode instead of " Dragon Explore Dungeon " it's making me cringe its so wrong lol

This was brought up on its page - these are verbtaim notes and will remain that way. Also, neither of you mentioned "passion vines", another bizarre term. Manifold 22:16, 15 December 2012 (UTC)