Talk:Gaheron Baelfire

Wheel of Time much? [1] Mat Cauthorn, The Botanist 21:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Or Baelfire. Though this was an interesting find. There's even this. Out of everything I can find, I think Bael being an alternate form of this is most realistic: "bale, an archaic synonym for evil". -- Konig/talk 00:51, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The name reminds me most of the biblical demon baal. Damysticreaper 17:49, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

That's not solely biblical. Baal was a god (well, more of an honorific that was used in replacement for a particular gods' name) of rain fertility and so forth. He, like many other "pagan" deities were demonized by the abrahamic faiths. -- Konig/talk 19:10, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting me, but seeing that Baelfire is revered as a god i'd say it's more likely he is based the god Baal than on a tree called Bael or a character called balefire. Damysticreaper 19:20, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Are we sure?

Are we sure that he is a charr? I read the source and only saw that he was "one of them". Being their god, I think they consider him one of them even if he was a bunny.--Markisbeest 20:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

He's a charr of the Flame Legion intent on becoming a god. -- Konig/talk 01:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

It is wonderfull of you to tell me your interpretation of the story, but I haven't found the words Gaheron is a Charr anywhere.--Markisbeest 10:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Tell me, did you even read the reference? "They will raise Gaheron – one of their own – to be the sole God among their race, and other charr will worship him, or be destroyed." -- Konig/talk 22:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

if you can't react normally please don't react, but it says one of their own, while I myself interpretate this as "one of their own gods" for they always had a nasty habit of honoring strange creatures, why would that've changed.--Markisbeest 07:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Stop being a troll. It's obvious from the book that Gaheron is the current leader of the Flame Legion, and is obviously a charr. Arshay Duskbrow 07:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

ok, then tell me about this book and everything is fine, but don't call me a troll when I'm not trying to be one, go to 4chan if you want to shout at someone for being a troll, not here, not at me, because I really was just trying to question something as everyone browsing the wiki should do! so go cry at your mommy for mean people on the internet, but I'm not being a troll and if I'm gonna be called one, then I will just leave everything be, not be helpfull and then there's you to blame for making a good person quit, so who's the troll then huh? screw you!--Markisbeest 16:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not gonna bother through the book to find what Arshay means (as I'm not sure it mentions Gaheron in there, tbh), but you should re-read that quote. They will raise Gaherone - one of their own - to be... i.e., he isn't a god yet therefore your logic - that this line means "one of their own gods" - cannot work. He isn't a god yet, so he's one of their own... which means he is like them... i.e., a charr. -- Konig/talk 18:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Now I see, sorry for bothering you then, I think the text was in my head before I even read it, Thank you for explaining this to me. :)--Markisbeest 15:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow.... Arshay and Konig, I'm surprised at how rude you both were to this poor person. Honestly, you both should apologize. Anyway, Markisbeest does make a point. There is no verification that they are, in fact, a Charr, as "one of them" could mean socially, politically, religiously, biologically, etc. Is it likely that he is a Charr? Yes, very much so. Is it 100% certain? No, it does not seem to be... --Amannelle 22:02, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

This was quite a bit in the past. It would hardly be worth rekindling a fire during the daytime would it? (Not sure if that will make sense) Anyways, proper grammar does dictate Konig as correct, and the fact that Markisbeest seemed determined to disagree with Konig while not properly reading the reference most likely led to Arshay's troll accusation. As I said, let's leave this one in the past. :) Eive 23:01, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

It was only months ago, so it really isn't too long ago (at least, compared to the many comments which have been left on this site from 2009, or even the few from 2008 if I'm not mistaken). Markisbeest had said "I read the source", so for Konig to directly contradict him, demanding "Did you even read the reference?" is not so much a question of curiosity, but strikes me as a simple way of stating "You did not". The reason I feel this is worth "rekindling" is because 2 people basically bullied someone into apologizing for a completely plausible theory, which, considering Arshay and Konig's normal personalities, strikes me as incredibly surprising. This also made me very, very disappointed in both of them, for I thought they were so much better than this.... Which is why I request (or demand, if you will) an apology from them to this poor fellow, if only so that I might be able to redeem them some small bit in my own mind... :( Especially Arshay... I can't believe they would reply in such a disgraceful manner... :( --Amannelle 03:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

The thing is that he was reading it incorrectly, unless Anet has some wacky grammar phrasing that they used once and only once in interviews. And it is always frustrating trying to point out that a stubborn person is wrong, especially when the answer is point blank obvious. I wasn't trying to be rude. Not to mention that Markisbeast's initial comment seemed very troll-ish (that is "I think they consider him one of them even if he was a bunny."). -- Konig/talk 03:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Sometimes it's just not worth starting everything back up again so you can tell people they've been slightly impatient. Seriously. --Odal talk 11:59, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand... I think.... o_o I must apologize for how incessant I have been... regardless of whether or not I was right in my actions, it was not my place to say such things, and it was very impolite of me to try to point at other people's actions in such a way.  :( I'm sorry, Konig and Arshay. --Amannelle 22:11, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Plus, I noticed this quote on the Charr Race page on GW2.com "a tyrant of the Flame Legion who seeks to make himself a god". That sounds like a Charr trying to become a God, to me. Not sure if this was resolved or not. 24.213.186.130 15:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that -if any- the FLAME legion would allow non-charr. - Infinite - talk 15:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)