Category talk:Renown hearts

'Hearts' seems kind of vague. I'm working to move these over to the category 'Renown Hearts'. Torrenal 04:43, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Can we move it to Tasks, instead? That's what they're referred to as in-game. Sounds Risky | 05:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Most of what was in this category was NPCs. Tasks are things you do. NPCs are not. If its actual tasks, then the only objection I have with tasks is it sounds rather generic.... but we can always sub-categorize. Torrenal 06:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

If you're only concerned about a category for the NPCs, they're considered Karma Vendors. Sounds Risky | 06:20, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

[[:Category:Renown Hearts]] is already widely used, so I support deleting this category in favour for that one. - Infinite - talk 09:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

@ Risky - To say they are a karma vendor is to say that my bank makes change. My bank does lots more, and so do the Renown Hearts NPCs. They are linked to the Heart/Task. Don't complete the task, and all they do is yell at you to "make stuff right" - they offer no vendor services until you help them out. They also exist as more substantial characters than [Merchant] over there, or that guy [Trade] who's lurking in the corner... They carry the story. I've put some thought into the organization now, here's what I propose, since things are going to become somewhat... cluttered... once the full game goes live. I'd even suggest getting some input from someone who can speak authoritatively on what SMW can manage, and may have even better ideas for organizing things than what I came up with after half a day of light mulling.

Create 2 initial categories: Renown Hearts NPCs, Renown Hearts Tasks. Link those back to a Renown Hearts category. Then (this is where things can get snazzy, if we want to) we create lists of tasks/hearts by region. Those could be done as categories, but I think SMW managed tables would be a better choice (or we could manage them by hand...) We drop those summary lists in the plain-ole Renown Hearts category.

Thoughts? Torrenal 00:37, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

They're Karma Vendors because you buy their garbage with karma. Is Renown Heart even used anywhere in the game? Sounds Risky | 00:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

There are karma vendors who are not "heart" NPCs scattered around the home cities. These NPCs may function as karma vendors, but they also do more than just that. —Dr Ishmael 00:57, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't change that Hearts and Renown Hearts are little more than player slang at this point unless, again, someone can point out where those terms are specifically referred to in-game in the most current build. Sounds Risky | 01:59, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll take descriptive slang over vague terminology. Being blunt "Heart" is vague. Are we talking a collectable drop? (frigid hearts?), a monster (Heart Tormenter), a skill (heart of holy flame), a quest (the forge heart), or any of a dozen other posibilities? That vagueness makes this category useless as a 'category'. All I'm doing is proposing a 2-way split for the heart-related categories: One for the tasks these 'heart NPCs' offer, and one for the actual NPCs. If an official name makes itself known, by all means rename them, but if you have something less vague than "heart" and more proper than Renown Heart NPC or Renown Heart Task, please suggest it. Torrenal 02:14, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Digging: http://www.killtenrats.com/2012/01/20/gw2-just-play/ - In the article dated January, Anthony Ordon states: "To clarify, heart icons represent renown regions. A renown region is the setting for an ongoing story in which you participate to win over and get rewards from the NPC that lives there." Torrenal 00:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

(Reset indent) This aside, just noting that we have Category:Skill challenges but Category:Renown Hearts. Redshift 15:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)