Talk:Wyld Hunt
Possible description of the Wyld Hunt: "They also have this instinctive drive to hunt and kill the dragons because they perceive them to be evil" (IGN).-- Shew 15:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Reference to the Wild Hunt in the Witcher 2? 95.180.84.110 23:06, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
- The Witcher 2 was made this year. This page was made in 2009. - 23:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
- @ip; its a reference to the Wild Hunt, the real world myth ([1]), as is the hunt in the Witcher 2. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thering (talk • contribs).
- "a phantasmal,specteral group of huntsmen with the accoutrements of hunting, horses, hounds, etc., in mad pursuit across the skies or along the ground, or just above it." Doesn't seem too related to sylvari to me. Might as well wait for more, confirmed information to become available on Wyld Hunt before jumping into speculations about reference. Mediggo 07:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- The name was from the myth; that myth is Celtic in origin, as is quite a bit of other Sylvari lore - the Nightmare Court being inspired by the Unseelighe (god I slaughtered that I just know it) Court, for instance. Konig/talk 08:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Wild Hunt is originally a Gallic or Germanic myth, according to Wikipedia. And I don't see any source for that reference either, though it (unlike this Wild Hunt reference) seems more probable as it has something practical to do with the real life myth. I have a hard time imagining how noble sylvari would be doing anything like mythical Wild Hunt, like berserking, or preceeding a war or plague of destruction. To me it would sound more like a norn thing. So unless these Wyld Hunt valiant sylvari go on a literal rampage or actual, deadly hunt against the Elder Dragons or something, it's not very related to the Wild Hunt. Wait or ask for official confirmation. Mediggo 09:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's an obvious reference seeing that many words in celtic languages have y's instead of i's, which I think this is a play on. Also Gauls were Celts if I remember it correctly.--Mark, het Beest 10:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) "Wild Hunt is originally a Gallic or Germanic myth" My Celtic knowledge is off, but didn't the Celts include early Gaul and Germanic as well? :p I would see that as something a Nightmare Court sylvari may do, or something the sylvari would stop in a Wyld Hunt. But in the end, the only reference there is/can be is in the name itself (Wyld being pronounced the same as Wild). Mind you, I'm not saying it's trivia worthy, but that's likely where the name came from. As far as we know - which mind you is very little - there's really seems to be absolutely no reason to call it "Wild/Wyld" or "Hunt." Konig/talk 10:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Germanic people weren't Celts though, as they had an entirely different pantheon and mythology (Norse mythology). Yet I still think it is worth a mention.--Mark, het Beest 10:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- As I said before (sorry about forgetting to sign), it's a reference to the wild hunt, but only, as far as we know at the moment, a reference to the name. I would be surprised if they used such an evocative name without any further similarities, but it is possible. That being said, there is a rich vein of lore about the hunt, and so I'm sure they could find something to link it to the wyld hunt. Thering 13:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, also, the wild hunt is related to the seelie and unseelie courts of fairies - which are the forces of summer and winter respectively. Given the sylvari are attuned to seasons, and there is a lot of folklore about the faerie courts, I would imagine some of the real life lore will be borrowed for the sylvari Thering 13:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- So where did you find out that Wild Hunt and Unseely Court are related? Because I sure can't find that from Wikipedia. Also, all the races, no, all the games ever created borrow from our history, lore and mythology. Not just sylvari. Mediggo 13:47, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia article, start of the second paragraph: "The hunters may be the dead or the fairies", and futher down in the UK section, "the hunters are rather from a faery otherworld, where the Wild Hunt was the hosting of the fairies". The seelie and unseelie courts are the faerie courts from irish mythology. I agree with your main point mediggo, I was pointing out the specific parts of our own lore and mythology that I think they may have used to create the sylvari. Thering 15:53, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- I think player character sylvari will receive the call to hunt Zhaitan. Ramei Arashi 05:00, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia article, start of the second paragraph: "The hunters may be the dead or the fairies", and futher down in the UK section, "the hunters are rather from a faery otherworld, where the Wild Hunt was the hosting of the fairies". The seelie and unseelie courts are the faerie courts from irish mythology. I agree with your main point mediggo, I was pointing out the specific parts of our own lore and mythology that I think they may have used to create the sylvari. Thering 15:53, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- So where did you find out that Wild Hunt and Unseely Court are related? Because I sure can't find that from Wikipedia. Also, all the races, no, all the games ever created borrow from our history, lore and mythology. Not just sylvari. Mediggo 13:47, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, also, the wild hunt is related to the seelie and unseelie courts of fairies - which are the forces of summer and winter respectively. Given the sylvari are attuned to seasons, and there is a lot of folklore about the faerie courts, I would imagine some of the real life lore will be borrowed for the sylvari Thering 13:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- As I said before (sorry about forgetting to sign), it's a reference to the wild hunt, but only, as far as we know at the moment, a reference to the name. I would be surprised if they used such an evocative name without any further similarities, but it is possible. That being said, there is a rich vein of lore about the hunt, and so I'm sure they could find something to link it to the wyld hunt. Thering 13:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Germanic people weren't Celts though, as they had an entirely different pantheon and mythology (Norse mythology). Yet I still think it is worth a mention.--Mark, het Beest 10:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Wild Hunt is originally a Gallic or Germanic myth, according to Wikipedia. And I don't see any source for that reference either, though it (unlike this Wild Hunt reference) seems more probable as it has something practical to do with the real life myth. I have a hard time imagining how noble sylvari would be doing anything like mythical Wild Hunt, like berserking, or preceeding a war or plague of destruction. To me it would sound more like a norn thing. So unless these Wyld Hunt valiant sylvari go on a literal rampage or actual, deadly hunt against the Elder Dragons or something, it's not very related to the Wild Hunt. Wait or ask for official confirmation. Mediggo 09:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- The name was from the myth; that myth is Celtic in origin, as is quite a bit of other Sylvari lore - the Nightmare Court being inspired by the Unseelighe (god I slaughtered that I just know it) Court, for instance. Konig/talk 08:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- "a phantasmal,specteral group of huntsmen with the accoutrements of hunting, horses, hounds, etc., in mad pursuit across the skies or along the ground, or just above it." Doesn't seem too related to sylvari to me. Might as well wait for more, confirmed information to become available on Wyld Hunt before jumping into speculations about reference. Mediggo 07:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- @ip; its a reference to the Wild Hunt, the real world myth ([1]), as is the hunt in the Witcher 2. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thering (talk • contribs).
- The Witcher 2 was made this year. This page was made in 2009. - 23:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, the Wyld Hunt is not related to the Unseelie Court at all - The Nightmare Court is.-- DrakeWurrum 02:31, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
After doing first part of personal story you will talk to the Pale Tree. She says it is rare for a sylvari to get the call to Wyld Hunt while still in the Dream. Normally it would seem that happens after a sylvari has awoken on Tyria. So the description is a bit off. Player characters get hint of Wyld Hunt in the Dream because we're special most sylvari don't. The only sylvari to get Wyld Hunt to confront Zaihtan according to the Pale Tree are Caithe and your player character. Others may get WH to fight minions but not the elder dragon itself. Ramei Arashi 02:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't recall that being said. Instead, it was being called to fight an Elder Dragon which was rare (the PC being the second of two - the other being Caithe). But I don't recall the Pale Tree ever talk about Wyld Hunts as they appear in the Dream. In fact, the Nightmare's version, Dark Hunts, was said in at least one time to come before the sylvari awoke (see the "Where Life Goes" storyline) - along with this, there were several sylvari who mentioned feeling their calling when they dreamed or while awakening. If the Pale Tree does say that, then there's a contradiction in lore. Konig/talk 03:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- It was both. She said a Wyld Hunt while still in the Dream was rare and that only two of her children were called to fight Zaihtan. Ramei Arashi 06:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Receiving a Wyld Hunt[edit]
Who gives a Wyld Hunt? The Pale Tree, or the Dream, or is it just an urge? Trahearne says "I Dreamed of Orr, as Caithe did. But where she saw a dragon to fight, I saw a land to heal." Is it a personality thing or something like that? Would be nice to know. TiffanySmith.8216 (talk) 18:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
- I think directing you towards the lore section of the forums is best. You'll probably get a wider range of responses through which to sort. G R E E N E R 20:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)