Talk:Taste of Liquid World Experience

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I have noticed that this item wasn't only removed, it was actually replaced with WXP Booster, even its chat link points to the new item. I went ahead and updated the page to reflect that, however, I noticed that the section about acquisition is dynamically built and then I believe that changing the respective items will cause the acquisition methods to vanish, correct? How could those articles be updated without removing these acquisition methods from this page? Should it be relisted manually? I believe it's good to keep them for historical reasons.--Txon Atana - (talk) 00:34, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

The problem is actually multifaceted. Anet's changed many of the ID's to boosters, and introduced new ID's with new names for instant WvW experience.

ID	API Name	Current Wiki Name
45060	WXP Mini-Booster	Drop of Liquid World Experience
45056	WXP Booster (masterwork)	Thimble of Liquid World Experience
45055	WXP Booster (rare)	Taste of Liquid World Experience
45057	WXP Booster (rare)	Swig of Liquid World Experience
45058	WXP Booster (rare)	Jug of Liquid World Experience
45059	WXP Booster (rare)	Keg of Liquid World Experience
71819	Drop of Instant World Experience	-
72485	Thimble of Instant World Experience	-
72135	Taste of Instant World Experience	-
75635	Swig of Instant World Experience	-
-	Jug of Instant World Experience	-
70567	Keg of Instant World Experience	-

Note that there was no new Jug that I could find on the API. Sources for the new "... Instant World Experiences" need to be filled out.

The ID numbers on the old pages need to be removed (we don't want /wiki leading to them). The old sources will still point to them if the {{contains}} template refers to them only by name. If these sources now give the "... Instant World Experiences", they'll need to be swapped. G R E E N E R 02:27, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Yup, I found it out through Taste of Liquid World Experience but I guessed the variant ones also had been changed (I just didn't check them in game). I didn't know about the "Instant" ones. Now it got even weirder and curious.. It looks like Drop of Instant World Experience was meant to replace Drop of Liquid World Experience, per example, but Anet made new IDs for those instead replacing the old... yay for devs messing stuff up :P

And yes, I thought about removing the IDs from the old articles and adding them to new ones (then /wiki wouldn't take to the wrong article), but there is only one page for the replaced item (WXP Booster). I thought about listing all the variations in the same page (I have seen tables with rarity variation of a few items, like in Norn Greatsword) and then make those IDs linked to that page (WXP Booster in this case). Could it be done this way? Or should each variation have their own article?

But my main point and doubt is about the acquisition sources. I get that they are retrieved from the articles where they are referred with the {{contains}} template. What would happen to this article if this item is removed from those old source articles (per example, World Ranker achievement page still shows it as reward)? It would vanish from this page, right? If so, it would need to be put back manually I believe, huh? How could the old source articles be updated without removing them from this article?

Sorry for the long post and I hope I was clear enough, I just want to be sure I'm not going to mess anything. :P --Txon Atana - (talk) 03:22, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with the ids, stuff like the /wiki query can use Property:Has availability to decide on which page to redirect to. As far as acquisition sources, tracking historical information like that is tedious and require a lot of work and I'm not sure how much value it offers. This isn't a concern for {{contains}} because relatively few items get removed from container drop tables compared to containers being removed (which would conserve the historical information).--Relyk ~ talk < 04:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC)