Talk:Nightmare Court

IMO, this is a bit of speculation - we don't know if the Nightmare Court is the cause of the nightmares, or if they are the Sylvari who have been corrupted by the nightmares, despite being born from the Pale Tree. Erasculio 11:11, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Well uhm. I would disagree with the fact that its got nothing to do with nightmares? Might I point out the name >.< --BloodStain 11:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

What's the source for this article? --pling  16:32, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Here-- Shew 16:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Possible this is related to all those hostile plants we fight in gw1? what was the source of that? If your bored check out the quest dialog for the quest Aidan gives in presearing. Perhaps the wizard towers will have some use in gw2. Another that comes to mind is Urgoz? 72.160.227.222 03:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC) Login Justice 03:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok Aidan told us to fight Aloes and their everywhere and they are corrupted in some places but they don't seem very nightmarish and wouldn't add any enthusiasm to people if Anet used the same creature, We defeated Urgoz thats the point of Urgoz's Warren and as for the wizarding tower either the programmers didn't program it into the distance in post-searing or it got destroyed and maybe the tower will be used if the charr repair it, but I doubt that. - Giant Nuker 11:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Aidan only means the Aloes in the area, specifically, those he tells us to kill. Urgoz is the reason why the Wardens are hostile. The Wizard's Tower is, for all we know (and see) was destroyed in the Searing (we would be able to see it in Old Ascalon off the map if Anet wanted it to still be around). The Sylvari, for all we know, have no connection to other plants. -- Konig/talk 23:57, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

theres more then one tower. Not that i seriously believe thats the cause. I dont think we truely defeat urgoz, isnt that said in the quest dialog somewhere? And how could you say Sylvari are not connected to other plants? Im not defending anything there, was just tossing some stuff around cause i was bored. Justice 23:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

The tower isn't even the source of the corruption though. It's the experiments by Aziure that twists the plants area. And it isn't said anywhere that we don't truly defeat Urgoz (that I know or could find that is). And what I mean by the Sylvari not being connected to other plants is that the reasons why other plants are hostile are most likely not the case for the Nightmare Court being evil and that, aside from being plants, there are no known connections. -- Konig/talk 01:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The thing about the Sylvari having a connection to other plants comes from the original article announcing GW2, I believe. --Santax (talk · contribs) 15:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The only mention of the Sylvari having any kind of connection with plants was the Dream of Dreams which is just with the other Sylvari. That is, that I could find. -- Konig/talk 22:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Did you read through the magazine? --Santax (talk · contribs) 15:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

If you mean the PCGamer magazine which contains the Movement and Ecology of the Charr, then yes. Don't recall an older article than that magazine. -- Konig/talk 20:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The original article accidentally omitted the Movement and didn't contain the Ecology, so perhaps the publication you were viewing is something more recent? --Santax (talk · contribs) 17:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

picture

I don't know about you guys but doesn't that picture look a bit like the thing that the sylvari was awakening in the trailer at around 1:48—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Getefix (talk • contribs).

I agree. I think it should be removed. Especially cuz posting that was based on a guess.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Master500010 (talk • contribs).

He wasn't suggesting a removal, but commenting on the similarities. Also, both of you, please sign your comments with four tildes (~). -- Konig/talk 16:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I dont think this pic should be removed. If you look closely there is a humanoid that looks like a Nightmare Court Sylvari standed right in front of the big creature.--BookofTyria 02:57, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I didn't know we had a description of what the Nightmare Court sylvari look like. And the discussion was not about the removal of the image... -- Konig/talk 03:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I removed it anyways, due to it being speculation and is even stated to be such in the description that was up. Better to leave it blank than something that may not even be sylvari. (There's other humanoid plants on the world, ya know).-- Konig/talk 03:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

NC Leader

I was just wondering whether it should be mentioned that Faolain, as a Firstborn and Grand Duchess of the Nightmare Court, maybe the leader of the Nightmare Court. Grand Duchess is a very high rank (inferior only to King/Queen and Emperor/Empress) and being a Firstborn, there isn't any older Sylvari to have the leadership position. If not her, only another of the Firstborn could presumably have leadership of the NC. Snaggleooo 10:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

We know Faolain has that title but knowledge of the Nightmare Court is still lacking to make conclusions. We would need to know more about their social structure and how they operate as an orginazation. It's likely she has a leading function having the title of Grand Duchess, but even that still remains speculation as we don't know what it means within the Nightmare Court. Damysticreaper 12:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

The fact that you say "maybe the leader of the Nightmare Court" indicates that it's speculation. We don't include speculation. It's highly likely she's their leader, but its not said to be the case. Konig/talk 17:21, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I have to agree with Damysticreaper and Konig, as we can't be a hundred per cent sure of the overall leadership of the Court. Faolain could be second in-command or is favored by Cadeyrn. She could be the leader. Also back to Snaggleooo, a Firstborn doesn't have to be leader because they are older. As authority can be in the hands of someone younger than you.--BookofTyria 19:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Unseelie Court

I don't disagree that the Unseelie court was the NC's inspiration, but I can't find anywhere (I only looked quickly) where the dev team says this. Source please? Thering 19:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you Thering, seeing as their is no outside source from the dev team themselves could mean that the Unseelie court is not a direct inspiration. It would be best to put facts like this down when it is confirmed by official GW2 lore or the dev team, not just a link to a sight that talks about a similar thing such as the Unseelie court.--BookofTyria 19:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

It was stated somewhere by Ree Soesbee, it was an interview from 09. I'll have to find it. Konig/talk 22:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Haven't found the interview yet, but I narrowed it down to it being before March '10. Konig/talk 22:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Found it. "The Nightmare Court can be compared to legends of the Unseelie Court, the Dark Fae, and other faerie creatures of darkness." Konig/talk 23:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Leadership

I wonder why Cadeyrn isn't leader anymore, he doesn't seem the type of person to give up the leader position to Faolain just because she's Firstborn...--Mark, het Beest 16:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)