Talk:Melandru

Ok, I just said I favor minimalist, but this is too short. :P -- Armond Warblade 22:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

What about waiting till GW2 is there before we start to fill stubs with unnecessary (or not verified) content..? poke | talk 23:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Overrated. :P But is there nothing more we can add to this right now? -- Armond Warblade 23:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No, and all of this is taken from GW1. We don't know what role, if any, the gods are going to play in GW2. Lord Belar 23:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm willing to bet money the gods are still around in GW2. Chances of all races giving up their gods because these dragons come around seems pretty impossible, considering the gods actually have interactions with the people, it's not so much a belief as it is part of their reality. Afterall, seems like people are more inclined to put their faith and trust in gods when they're powerless to do things themselves, like say, slay a dragon that doesn't fit on my computer monitor. Kai Nui 21:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

are there still the same gods? nothing happend to them or changed--FrekyElf 18:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

except the age they are still the same :) Fox007 20:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Going back to role of the gods. It is said that they have drifted away but we cant really know all the lore behind that to we play through the story line of a human(maybe someone could play as one who favors Melandru out of the Six to see what her role is.--BookofTyria 00:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Quaggan

So, Colin talked about the Quaggan worship Melandru. You can see it in this video and has been put up on the Quaggan page, anyone think they should be listed as a follower of Melandru? Konvay the Conveyer 23:38, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Melandru's Goals

Melandru is described as being the patron of nature, earth and growth. I have a couple of questions about this--I realize no concrete answers have been given yet, or I wouldn't have to ask you to discuss this with me. Does Melandru hold all life as sacred, or just the life of innocents such as unthinking animals? If she holds all life sacred, would she try to promote peace between, say, the humans and the centaurs? Also, by "growth", is that simply physical growth such as the planting of a tree, or does that extend metaphorically into personal growth? Once more, I realize that none of you can give me an answer that is 100% sure, but I would invite any and all speculation. --Sy 23:33, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) If you haven't noticed, the gods are virtually absent from mortal affairs at the time of GW2. As for the second thing, I would say it is more physical than metaphorical, but I have no way of being certain. And darn, I was going to make you unsigned. :P 23:37, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I realize they don't take an active hand anymore, but the ironic this is that the last time they directly intervened was Before Exodus. They've always been distant. Just because they're slightly more distant than GWI doesn't mean they've completely fled. We'll find out over the course of the game, I suppose, but I personally don't think the Gods would have *permanently* left all affairs and concerns on Tyria alone. (As for the signing--I kinda fail at that--I'm used to most sites auto-signing for me.) --Sy 23:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

And I did say "would" she try, as in, if she were still around. Just to clarify --Sy 23:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, didn't notice the "would." Well I would assume most of the Gods would intervene if they weren't too busy with whatever is is they're doing and the centaur situation was dire enough. Of course I realize that the Gods aren't permanently gone, but for all intent and purposes, they're ignoring humanity in one of our greatest times of crisis. I'm sure Anet will give some stupid explanation like being held captive by the dragons or something else that doesn't make much sense. And I'm wondering where the speculation police are, I'm fairly certain they are all online at this time of day. 23:52, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

It seems to me that Dwayna's the one who holds all life sacred. Though there are cases aside from this. With Melandru, it seems that she holds the natural world - which would imply that killing is necessary for food and the like, so I would surmise that she'd be against unnecessary/unneeded violence if at all. -- Konig/talk 01:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

"Legends of the charr say that Melandru was the one who created Tyria."

I thought the charr didn't believe in human gods, or even thought of them as enemies? pling 19:07, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

The Ecology of the Charr: "Before the time of the humans, it is said the Charr had no gods, no concept of divine beings with more power than themselves. They knew of Melandru, and even had legends that described how she created the world. But to the Charr, these beings were not to be worshiped or feared–they were to be fought, and if possible, destroyed." Having legends of is not the same as worshiping. The charr acknowledge the Six's existence, but they don't worship them. Konig/talk 19:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. (It's a bit silly imo.) pling 19:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Silly that they recognize that the Six Gods are in fact beings of power but refuse to worship them? To a polytheistic society it isn't, though to a society used to a monotheistic god it can be. To polytheists, the view of "there are gods that are not my god(s)" is rather very commonplace. Athens, for instance, had the patron goddess Athena - this doesn't mean they never believed the other Greek pathos gods were not gods, they just didn't worship them. The charr are not a big leap from that mentality. Konig/talk 19:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

"though this is false as she was the third of the Six Gods to arrive on the world." <- is this falsity something explicitly stated, or conjecture from the fact that she arrived third? Because if she is actually the oldest, then I see no problem in her creating the world (from the outside), and then arriving/manifesting herself in it only as the third. --Foresterr 11:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Except that the gods seemed to have "found" Tyria and brought humans there (the way it sounds, to me, sounds like the gods and humans were refugees of another world). Konig/talk 14:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Different deities

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I don't think that quote says they're different deities, just that there are two aspects or points of view: one being of the typical Melandru, the other being what the quaggan see as Mellaggan. Human scholars think they're the same (and they are), while quaggan make a distinction between the two. That doesn't mean they're two different beings in reality, nor is the blog post saying so. pling 17:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)