Talk:Inscription

Shaman's Inscription

I don't know where this site get's their information from, so I'm not sure how much of a citation this is but: Shaman
According to this it gives primarily toughness not vitality, then healing and condition damage secondary.~Ao Allusir 14:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Verify

Need to verify the plated dowel names past Iron. Wombatt 00:56, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Steel verified during stress test 3. Wombatt 21:19, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Tiers 4-6

Based on the icons pulled from the dat file for BWE3, there will continue to be 7 inscriptions, and they will share the same names across the three tiers (all the illustrations are the same, with variations like for Strong Soft/Strong Iron etc) Wombatt 22:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Bonuses table

I really don't like these type of sparse checkbox tables. It takes me too much time to parse them out and figure out the information I want. I don't have any alternate proposals, unfortunately, but if anyone else can come up with one, that would be great. —Dr Ishmael 20:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The individual overview pages (Green Inscription, Soft Inscription, more to follow) have full stats on them that are very specific. I don't know of a way to show complete info another way. My thought behind this layout was for a easy to read way to find the attribute boosts you're looking for. As a necro I know I want condition damage bonus, this way I can find those inscriptions at a glance and then find our what secondary or tertiary bonuses they have. The links to the specific inscription tier pages have the breakdown of specific bonuses for specific inscriptions. Wombatt 21:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Inscriptions

→ moved from Talk:Main Page#Inscriptions

I vote that we DONT link every inscription to individual weapons because the list is just going to be stupid. OurDelusions 12:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Please post discussions on the talk page of the relevant article.

And what exactly are you talking about? I don't see any weapons on the page? -- ab.er.rant 06:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

"Recipies requiring this ingrediant" ||-- OurDelusions 10:43, 5 September 2012

Bit late - but I agree. We should link to the tiered crafting tables I.E. here. I think it fits just as well. Juicearific ~talk 16:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

"Non crafted Inscriptions"

It seems that we have added "non craftable inscriptions"... which is really contradictory. At the top of the page we say (not exactly, but everything points to it) that inscriptions are crafted. Now down at the bottom we have "non crafted inscriptions" Not only does it make sense, considering they aren't inscriptions... it also doesn't make sense since this page deals with crafting and those, as stated, as non craftable. While I don't disagree with listing every prefix somewhere, this inscriptions page is not the place to list all these different prefixes and their bonuses. And I'm not even going to mention the fact that they have a crafting level beside them o.O. basically: Anything that isn't crafted (in my opinion) doesn't belong on this page. I'm not going to remove it, but I would definitely like to know why it's there - and if we could make an alternate page for it. Because like I said, this page is for crafted inscriptions, something that those don't even have. Juicearific ~talk 16:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I agree that it is out of place. Armor and weapons use the same combinations so the 5 non-craftable also apply to inscriptions, where they aren’t listed. I did find the "Item nomenclature" page, which is outdated but could be used to list all the stat combinations for armor and weapons. It would also be nice to list which are craftable, which are tradable, and which aren’t tradable (for example, Soldier is only from dungeons or wvw from what I've seen, vigil also has in rare form). The Item nomenclature page has some attributes mixed up though (Traveler's Primary is magic find, Shaman's primary is Vitality). This page also lists a "Svanir #2", which is more properly named Magi (after the Crest of the Magi, which seems to be where all 5 non-craftables got their names). Side note: is there an official category name for the Crest, Medallions, and such yet? They seem to be focused on the 5 non-craftables and I've just been calling them Patches. BioMasterZap 03:44, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I'd been referring to them all as "Medallions" as a whole, because I feel it best describes the way they look. Patches would be good too... but I don't think we have a specific name. As for the inscriptions, the (main) reason I'm saying they don't belong is because there isn't an inscription for it. Sure they exist, but an actual "Shaman's ____ Inscription" doesn't exist; meaning it shouldn't be on this page (IMO). Though I agree that the things you listed should be on whatever page they end up, I just don't rightfully want them on the crafting related one. Juicearific ~talk 13:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Agree completely. That section is entirely about nomenclature, not about inscriptions. Oh yeah, we had a discussion here about what to call those upgrade items, but couldn't come up with anything. —Dr Ishmael 13:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I think medallion is a type of patch, so it wouldn’t work as the category name (at least without confusion). They could be called medals or such as well. Maybe Anet will give them an official classification; it sure would help when trying to search them on trading post. Also, I think it would be a good idea to make a page that not only lists the possible stat combinations, but also how you can get them. When I found out Soldier armor was non-tradable, I spent a good deal of time looking around to find how it could be obtained (3 dungeons have it. Also, vigil but that armor is rare, not exotic). I also hear WvW's Invader armor has Soldier's stat, and also a matching jewelry set without the jewels. While I think Item nomenclature could be used as a place to list the non-craftable inscriptions/insignia combinations, it may not be best place to list where you can get the stats from. Still, it would be nice to list them someplace since a good deal of people seem to be looking for them. There is the Armor Stat Combinations page, but I feel the information could be organized easier. My own list I've made for the armor stats uses the Item nomenclature table and added an extra column for armor and then weapons. Then I list where I found armors with the stats [e.g. for Berserker under armor I have Crafting, Devona's (Heavy), Nika's (Medium), Zhed's (Light), Flame Legion (CoF), Inquest (CoE), Orrian (Arah)]. The weapon colemn is the same, without Devona, Nika, and Zhed since they only have armor, not weapons. Just an idea anyway. BioMasterZap 16:51, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

We could always put a link to the page where the information is found as well. But I think more people will be here for the crafted items called inscriptions as opposed to the non craftable prefixes, and as such the page should be catered to them first. And yeah IK - I just call them medallions because they look like them. We could also call them pins, patches, buttons, etc. I only call them medallions because the pictures remind me of that. Anyways, I have no idea where the page should go - and I'm not going to bother concerning myself with it. I have a large amount of crafting info available to me, so I'll focus on that; but I hope someone will find a suitable place for it, so we can remove it from here. Cheers. Juicearific ~talk 02:32, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Yah, here is certainly not the right place. The info is already on the Item nomenclature, even if it is outdated. So I'd suggest using that for the moment, although when listing what armor/weapons give what stat combos, that will probably need a better page. BioMasterZap 03:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Everyone here seems to agree the non crafted stuff shouldn't be on the inscription page so I removed the subheading and where they had been added to the T4/5/6 table and I added a link to Item nomenclature for anyone who comes to the inscriptions page looking for prefixes. I hope I did all that correctly. Bluestone 18:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)