Talk:Hallucination

Existence and other deep questions. Like loot.

I've been trying to track where these mobs occur and why. First I was sure they only appear when someone is under Toxic Pollen effect or when they are summoned by Toxic Hypnoss. But I have found a few stray hallucinations too. They are rare but they are there. Always spiders. They have been in areas where is no chance for toxic pollen and no toxic hypnoss near. I thought maybe someone just killed a hypnoss there but hallucinations spawned by hypnoss disappear with them. Another matter, loot. Has anyone ever gotten any loot from these? I think I haven't. Would be logical as they aren't technically real... I guess my toxic pollen infused quest continues. Rakuin (talk) 14:47, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. Pretty sure these don't drop any loot. Rakuin (talk) 17:34, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Hallucination = both race and NPC, rename?

The various levels of the Hallucinations have no race. Should Hallucination be a race, in which case the "base" one should be renamed to Hallucination (NPC). --Claret (talk) 20:33, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't think ArenaNet would create an entirely new race for these few NPCs. It's most likely they're just without a creature type - which does on rare occasion happen (such as the Nightmares at Reaper's Gate not having a creature type). Konig 20:51, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

No disagreeing in general, but in your example Aatxes, Shades etc have a race Nightmare. --Claret (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Right, because they have races everywhere else. I tested it myself before giving them a race - when the daily kill variety had reset I went to Reaper's Gate and had no progress when killing those Aatxes, but I had progress in Godslost Swamp (and another day in other places). Aatxes and Shades do have a creature type - "Nightmare" is the best we can do, it is merely an unofficial term taken from GW1's unofficial terminology - it's just an anomaly (an oversight, most likely) that those at Reaper's Gate do not. My point in bringing them up was that some NPCs do not have a creature type - I believe those marked as "Halloween creatures" are like this too, and are only marked as such so as to give them a label. In that spirit, I do not think we should mimic the action because we only have two kinds of Hallucinations with multiple rankings - there's not really much need to derivative them so. Especially when Hallucinations may actually have its race. Has anyone tried testing the variety with killing 1 Hallucination and 1 Nightmare, Ghost, or other shadowy beings? I doubt they'd be the same, but you never know. Should test against Ettins and Spiders too - the Hallucination should be the first kill, as if they don't have a creature type then there will be no progress to the variety bar. Konig 07:29, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately my slayer counters are full for those. I will await the "variety" option to come around. --Claret (talk) 10:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)