Talk:Cycle

Deletion

I disagree. Mostly because of these pages. If other bio Q&A's have pages on each answer, I don't see why one page to sum up these answers is a big deal. As we learn more I'm sure this page will grow to include more things worth noting. --Moto Saxon 00:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

It shouldn't be one page though; the biography pages should document what they affect. Therefore, it should be split. Aqua (T|C) 00:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

A split doesn't bother me, but each page would have so little info that one page would be suffice, and easier to read over and compare the different cycles. Plus, in the recent articles, Cycle seems to be a pretty official term that groups them. Similarly to how we have a race page, and pages for each race, and a profession page with pages on each profession. --Moto Saxon 00:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Imo, those nobility/commoner/street rat pages should also be merged because in comparison to norn spirits and charr legions, they are relatively minor in size and importance. --Xu Davella 00:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

We could just leave the page as one and give each cycle a section on the page. Otherwise the page should be deleted.--BookofTyria 00:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, splitting might be easier, seeing as how each Cycle is comparable to the Legions, with a firstborn leading each Cycle. Each of these 4 firstborn cover a different aspect of the Sylvari government, so they are rather significant, as are their respective cycles. 173.190.25.97 00:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Government sections are actually a good point, that way, they're not just articles relating to biography questions. The only problem is that we may not find out any more info about these cycles for a while, so we'd be stuck with stub pages until we get them, unless we merge them temporarily. --Xu Davella 00:50, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

"I disagree. Mostly because of these pages." The first two should be deleted too, imo, as they offer no real worth to them. The other pages are more than just biography options - Kormir and the Snow Leopard spirit are deities and the Blood Legion is an organization (for lack of a better term) in the world. Commoner, Nobility, Street, etc. are not. As for "the biography pages should document what they affect" I'd see that far better for some form of series of gw1:Storyline of Prophecies, GW2 style. Since I added the delete tag, I saw the term "cycle" being used more and more, so this one may have merit to being kept, but the individual seasons ([[Autumn]], [[Winter]], [[Summer]], and [[Spring]]) don't - unless they are reworked into being about the actual season and not the biography choice.

Main point is this though: If there's nothing outside the biography option (such as the case for human social status/regret, norn "party mistake"/hunting preference or charr father), then there's no need for individual articles (or even a collective article). If there's more to it (such as the gods, spirits of the wild, and legions), then they should have articles. After all, we don't have articles, nor will, titled Anonymity or Skull. As it stands, we know so little that the seasons articles don't need to be kept (and if ever remade, should be "Cycle of the " rather than the season), and this one is debatable (though something tells me tomorrow will make it no longer debatable). Konig/talk 01:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) As I see it, most of these pages have no use yet. They will serve to document the effects they have on personal stories/events/whatever when we know. We just don't have information about it yet. Aqua (T|C) 01:17, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Doing that would be highly tedious for pages which have alternative uses. If, for instance, you get 5 missions per biography choice, would it make sense to list those five missions, and whatever's between them or whatnot, on Kormir? No, it'd look horribly out of place. A "List of personal stories" would be better, and on such a page we can denote which is part of what biography options - same goes for what else is altered from the biography options.

Likewise, part of the personal story will be based on the three orders - will we be putting on Order of Whispers these missions? No! That article's for the group, not the personal story. It makes absolutely not sense to divide the differences as such, it's far easier - for the reader if not the documentor as well, to keep it on as few pages as possible. Konig/talk 03:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I took the delete tag off because no one else wants it deleted at this point. Several points have been brought up that do need addressing, we can continue this on the Talk:Biography page. --Moto Saxon 14:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Source of Descriptions?

As per subject title. I'm just wondering because there are nuances and tiny differences between what's here and what's in the in-game question. I'm trying to figure out what my own Sylvari toon should be. Thank you. --Messenger 16:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Time Error?

The page says the cycle of dawn is between midnight and 6:00am, noon is 6:00am through midday, and I assume dusk would be midday through 6:00pm and night would be 6:00pm through midnight. Is there some reason why it's shifted 6 hours out of alignment with reality? 213.104.13.229 04:38, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I'm thinking of it astrologically, and it seems like dawn should be 6:00am through noon, etc. I'd like to know if these times are referenced in game, and if not, the sources of the descriptions of the cycles. 70.171.119.170 17:43, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Dream and Nightmare, it was a post on the official ArenaNet Blog (which they dismantled around GW2 release for some reason). —Dr Ishmael 21:22, 5 July 2013 (UTC)