Talk:Bent Lockpick

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Bent Lockpicks are trash left by Guild Wars 1 players attempting to max Treasure Hunter and Unlucky. 75.37.20.99 18:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Dropped by

Picked up a few today from the Separatists in Rebel's Seclusion but I have no idea how to add that to the drop table. Nkuvu 02:08, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Add {{drops|Bent Lockpick}} to the Separatist NPC pages that drop the item.--Relyk ~ talk < 02:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Excellent. Thanks for the info. I added to the Basher and Stormcaller pages, because those are the two that I got the lockpicks from. I strongly suspect that the other Separatists in the area can drop them as well, but don't want to add information I haven't personally confirmed. Nkuvu 02:35, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

...but the table here doesn't seem to be updating with the new drop list. Hrm. Maybe it's a refresh issue somewhere. But at least people looking for them might be able to see this here discussion and think "hey, mebbe I'll go see about Rebel's Seclusion." Nkuvu 02:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Because those NPC pages aren't using the {{drops}} template. You have to use that in order for it to be annotated in the semantic datastore, then the {{dropped by}} template can retrieve it. —Dr Ishmael 02:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, I think that did it. Updated the Separatist Stormcaller page. The previous version looked a lot like the third example on the {{drops}} page, though it didn't have a second parameter. The table on the Separatist Basher page is... very different. Should that be updated to use the Drops template? Or left as is to contain more information (such as item type)? (p.s., appreciate the "edu-ma-cate Nkuvu on wiki basic template stuff" thing. Thanks) Nkuvu 03:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

We use simple bullet lists for item drops, tables tend to be overkill. You can replace the table with the {{drops}} template although you can leave a note about level i.e. (Level xx). We haven't figured out a way to present what is dropped by what level in templates.--Relyk ~ talk < 03:47, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Not sure how the dropped-by template works, but as it is displayed now it is just wrong and not helpful. The seperatists in Diessa Plateau drop Shattered Lockpicks instead, it will need high level seperatists for the Bent Lockpicks. --79.213.110.116 19:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

"We haven't figured out a way to present what is dropped by what level in templates." We could constrain the level range of the NPCs as a filter, split the NPC pages by level, split by area or zone since those have a level range, include a level property in the drops template, or query for all the areas on NPC pages with a level in the range.--Relyk ~ talk < 20:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)