Category talk:Burst skills
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If...
- "Burst skill" is within the "Warrior skills" category
- Eviscerate is within the "Burst skill" category
- Eviscerate is within the "Warrior skills" category
...Then Eviscerate is twice within the same category. Either we change this category tree, or we remove one of those categories from Eviscerate. Erasculio 13:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- the way I see it, "warrior skills" is an overview of all skills, while "burst skills" is a more psecific category. There's no reason you can't have it as it is. Rather i prefer it this way. You could argue the same about the "Axe skills" cat. or any of the other sub cats. of warrior skills =/. 87.242.138.161 14:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- "There's no reason you can't have it as it is": the article is twice within the same category, which doesn't make sense. If "burst skill" is more specific than "warrior skill", then adding only "burst skill" would be enough (considering how we don't add "Category: Skills" to all skills, rather we use the more specific subcategories).
- "You could argue the same about the "Axe skills" cat": yes, we still need to discuss what kind of category tree we will use for skills. Erasculio 14:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- forgive me then, your second point says "we still need to discuss...for skills"...aren't burst skills still skills?. As such I'd ask, is this the discussion? 87.242.138.161 14:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- No, we need to discuss the entire category tree for all skills. Some of that discussion began here, but there are a lot of points to discuss yet. Erasculio 14:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Then why bother bringing it up here and spreading it over multiple pages? Leave the discussion on that page so it's easier to follow, and change (or not) this when some sort of decision is reached. 87.242.138.161 14:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Because, as mentioned, "there are a lot of points to discuss yet" - the categorization by type has not been mentioned at the article I linked to, which means it's not possible to "leave the discussion on that page". Mentioning here how this category is being improperly used not only helps to make more people notice the main issue, but it also makes clear how no decision has been reached on the category system, including how to use the category "Burst skill". Hopefully it will prevent people in the future from just stating "You could argue the same about the "Axe skills" cat" and similar comments, in which there is the assumption that categories improperly used that have not been individually discussed are a precedent for the improper use of categories. Erasculio 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- In general with any category tree, a page should only be in the most specific category(ies). In other words, take Eviscerate out of Category:Warrior skills.
- This category needs renaming to Category:Burst skills - cat names should be plural. pling 15:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Because, as mentioned, "there are a lot of points to discuss yet" - the categorization by type has not been mentioned at the article I linked to, which means it's not possible to "leave the discussion on that page". Mentioning here how this category is being improperly used not only helps to make more people notice the main issue, but it also makes clear how no decision has been reached on the category system, including how to use the category "Burst skill". Hopefully it will prevent people in the future from just stating "You could argue the same about the "Axe skills" cat" and similar comments, in which there is the assumption that categories improperly used that have not been individually discussed are a precedent for the improper use of categories. Erasculio 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Then why bother bringing it up here and spreading it over multiple pages? Leave the discussion on that page so it's easier to follow, and change (or not) this when some sort of decision is reached. 87.242.138.161 14:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- No, we need to discuss the entire category tree for all skills. Some of that discussion began here, but there are a lot of points to discuss yet. Erasculio 14:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- forgive me then, your second point says "we still need to discuss...for skills"...aren't burst skills still skills?. As such I'd ask, is this the discussion? 87.242.138.161 14:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)